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Carve a ghost note for floor-shaking low end in Ableton Live 12 for jungle oldskool DnB vibes (Beginner)

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Lesson Overview

A ghost note in DnB is a very quiet note that sits underneath the main bassline and helps the groove feel alive. In Ableton Live 12, carving a ghost note for floor-shaking low end means shaping a subtle extra note so it adds movement, weight, and rhythm without muddying the sub.

In jungle and oldskool DnB, this is a classic trick: the bassline doesn’t just play big notes on the strong beats. It also hints at movement between them. That “almost heard” note can make the whole drop feel more urgent, more rolling, and more dancefloor-ready. Think of it like a low-end shadow that pushes the main bass forward.

This matters because DnB lives and dies by low-end control. If your bass is too static, the groove can feel flat. If the ghost note is too loud or too wide, the kick and sub fight each other. The sweet spot is a note you mostly feel rather than consciously hear — especially in rollers, jungle, and darker bass music.

In this lesson, you’ll build a simple, practical ghost-note bass movement in Ableton Live using stock tools only: MIDI notes, Operator or Wavetable, EQ Eight, Saturator, Compressor, Utility, and optional automation. You’ll learn how to make the ghost note support the drop, not clutter it.

What You Will Build

You’ll create a two-layer DnB bassline idea where:

the main note hits clearly on the groove
a ghost note sits behind it at low velocity
the ghost note adds bounce and tension in the lower midrange and sub area
the bass stays mono-compatible and club-safe
the pattern feels like it belongs in an oldskool jungle / roller drop

Musically, the result will sound like a rolling bass phrase with a hidden pulse underneath it. Imagine a pattern that answers the drums: the kick and snare keep the framework, while the bass breathes in the gaps with a barely-there note that makes the drop feel deeper.

By the end, you’ll have a loop you can drop into a track and develop into:

a 16-bar intro-to-drop phrase
a call-and-response bassline
a variation for the second 8 bars
a foundation for resampling and heavier edits later

Step-by-Step Walkthrough

1. Set up a clean DnB loop first

Open Ableton Live and set your project around 170–174 BPM for jungle/oldskool DnB vibes. Start with a simple 2-bar drum loop: kick, snare, and a basic break or hat pattern. Keep it minimal so you can hear what the bass is doing.

On a new MIDI track, load Operator or Wavetable. For beginner-friendly results, Operator is great because it’s quick and clean for sub-heavy bass.

Basic starting points:

- Oscillator: sine wave or a very clean low harmonic patch

- Amp envelope: fast attack, short decay, no release tail

- Leave effects off for now

Why this matters: if the drums aren’t already in place, you can’t judge whether the ghost note is helping the groove. DnB bass is always a relationship between drums and low end.

2. Write the main bass note before adding the ghost note

In the MIDI clip, place one strong bass note that supports the kick/snare rhythm. For oldskool/jungle style, start with a note that lands after the snare or answers the kick in the gap. A simple pattern might be:

- bar 1 beat 1: no bass

- beat 2.3: main bass note

- beat 4: another main note

- bar 2: similar pattern with a small variation

Keep the notes short at first, around 1/8 to 1/4 note length, so the groove stays tight.

If you’re using a sub sound, keep the notes around a comfortable root note such as F, G, or A minor territory. DnB bass often works best when the root is easy to lock with the kick.

Beginner rule: one strong note with a clear rhythmic role is better than a busy pattern that blurs the low end.

3. Add the ghost note as a quieter echo of the main line

Now place a second note near the main note, but make it much quieter. This is your ghost note.

Good ghost note placement options:

- just before the main note, to create a pull

- just after the main note, to create a tail

- between kick and snare, to fill a gap without stealing focus

Keep the velocity much lower than the main note:

- Main note velocity: around 90–120

- Ghost note velocity: around 20–50

If you’re using MIDI velocity to control volume, this alone can make the ghost note feel tucked away. If the instrument doesn’t react strongly to velocity, lower the note’s clip gain or track volume slightly.

A useful beginner approach is to duplicate the main MIDI note, then:

- lower it by 1 octave if needed for sub support

- reduce velocity

- shorten its length

- shift it earlier or later by a tiny amount

Why this works in DnB: the ghost note gives your bassline a second rhythmic layer, which makes the groove feel more human and more dangerous without making the bassline overly complex.

4. Shape the note lengths so the sub stays clean

In DnB, note length matters as much as note choice. A ghost note that is too long can smear into the kick or next bass hit.

Start with these note-length ideas:

- Main note: 1/8 to 1/4

- Ghost note: very short, around 1/16 to 1/8

- Leave small gaps between notes so the groove breathes

In the MIDI editor, zoom in and trim the note ends. If the bass is still too “stuck on,” use the instrument’s envelope or the clip’s notes to make it tighter.

If your sound has release, keep it controlled. For Operator, use:

- short amp decay

- almost no release

- enough sustain for the note to be audible, but not so much that it overlaps the next hit

This is especially important in jungle where fast drums and chopped breaks need space. Tight bass notes help the break stay punchy.

5. Use EQ Eight to carve space around the ghost note

Add EQ Eight after the instrument. Your goal is not to make the ghost note louder — it’s to make it easier to feel without clashing.

Start with these moves:

- high-pass very gently only if your patch has unwanted rumble, around 25–35 Hz

- if the note feels cloudy, dip 120–250 Hz by 2–4 dB

- if the bass needs presence, add a subtle boost around 700 Hz–1.5 kHz only if it won’t make the bass sound boxy

For a true sub-focused ghost note, you may actually want the opposite: keep the note mostly low and let harmonics come from saturation later.

Pro beginner tip: use EQ Eight in solo mode only briefly. Don’t over-visualize the bass. Judge by feel with the drums playing.

6. Add controlled saturation for audibility on small speakers

A ghost note often disappears on laptop speakers unless it has some harmonics. Add Saturator after EQ Eight.

Safe starter settings:

- Drive: 2–6 dB

- Soft Clip: On

- Output: trim down to keep volume consistent

If the bass starts sounding fuzzy, back off the Drive or use the Color section lightly. The idea is to create enough extra harmonic content that the ghost note can be perceived, but not so much that the sub becomes distorted trash.

For jungle and darker DnB, this is where the bass starts to feel more “played” and less like a plain sine tone. The saturation can make the ghost note cut through the break without needing to be turned up.

Watch the kick/bass balance. If the low end suddenly feels too loud after saturation, reduce the channel volume rather than over-EQing the problem away.

7. Control the low end with Utility and mono discipline

Add Utility at the end of the bass chain.

Useful settings:

- Width: 0% for the sub layer

- Bass Mono: if available in your workflow, keep the low end centered

- Gain: trim the bass so the whole mix has headroom

In a beginner DnB setup, a great practice is to keep the ghost note and sub completely mono. Stereo widening in the low end can feel exciting soloed, but in a club it can weaken the drop.

Check your bass in mono by using Utility on the master or bass bus. If the ghost note disappears or the low end gets hollow, reduce any stereo effects and simplify the patch.

This is one of the most important things in DnB: big low end comes from stability, not width.

8. Add movement with simple automation, not too much noise

Once the loop works, automate small changes to make the ghost note feel like it belongs in a real arrangement.

Good beginner automation targets:

- Filter cutoff on the bass patch, opening slightly into the drop

- Saturator drive increasing by a small amount in the second 8 bars

- Volume of the ghost note rising very subtly in a later section

- Reverb send only on a fill or transition, not on the main low-end notes

Keep automation subtle:

- filter movement: small changes, not dramatic sweeps

- drive changes: usually 1–3 dB is enough

- volume changes: tiny moves, maybe 1–2 dB

A strong DnB arrangement idea: use the ghost note more obviously in the second 8 bars of the drop, then strip it back for the last 4 bars before a switch-up. That creates tension and keeps DJs and dancers locked in.

9. Test the bass against the drums and simplify if needed

Put the bass loop against a kick, snare, and break. Listen to whether the ghost note is enhancing the groove or crowding it.

Ask these three questions:

- Do I still feel the kick clearly?

- Does the snare land with space around it?

- Can I feel the bass pulse without hearing it as a separate loud note?

If the answer is no, simplify:

- move the ghost note by a tiny amount

- reduce velocity

- shorten the note

- cut a bit of low-mid with EQ Eight

- lower the bass track by 1–2 dB

In DnB, less is often more. A tiny ghost note that works is far more powerful than a big note that ruins the drum impact.

10. Turn the loop into a believable drop section

Take your 2-bar idea and expand it into a simple 8-bar drop:

- Bars 1–2: main bass + ghost note

- Bars 3–4: remove the ghost note for contrast

- Bars 5–6: bring ghost note back, slightly changed

- Bars 7–8: add a small fill or break edit leading into the next section

This gives you a real arrangement shape, not just a static loop. For oldskool/jungle vibes, you can even let the ghost note appear more in the second half of the drop so the energy climbs naturally.

Use the Arrangement View and duplicate the clip. Then make one or two tiny variations:

- shift the ghost note timing

- change one main note to a different root or passing tone

- mute the ghost note for a bar to create anticipation

That’s enough to make it feel like a track, not a practice exercise.

Common Mistakes

Making the ghost note too loud

Fix: drop velocity first, then track volume. The ghost note should support the groove, not compete with the main bass.

Using too much stereo width on sub bass

Fix: keep the low end mono with Utility. Stereo movement can live in higher harmonics, not the sub.

Letting note lengths overlap too much

Fix: shorten notes and check the bass envelope. In DnB, overlap quickly turns into mud.

Adding saturation before the note is rhythmically working

Fix: get the MIDI groove right first. Then add saturation to help the note translate.

Carving too much EQ out of the bass

Fix: make small cuts. If you remove too much body, the bass will disappear on big systems.

Ignoring the drums while designing the bass

Fix: always audition with kick and snare. DnB bass is never made in isolation.

Pro Tips for Darker / Heavier DnB

Layer a very quiet mid-bass above the sub using a second track with the same MIDI, then high-pass it so the sub stays clean. This helps the ghost note read on smaller systems.

Use subtle pitch movement in Wavetable or Operator’s pitch envelope for a more aggressive reese-style attitude, but keep it tiny so the bass remains controlled.
Automate Saturator drive on the ghost note only by splitting the bass into sub and mid layers if you want extra bite without ruining the foundation.
Try call-and-response phrasing: let the ghost note answer the drum break, then let the main note return on the next beat.
Use a tiny bit of Drum Buss on the bass bus if you want extra knock and harmonics, but keep the low end stable and don’t overcrush it.
Reference classic jungle structure: sparse intro, bass drop, small variation after 8 bars, then a breakdown or switch-up. The ghost note works best when the arrangement gives it room.
Use clip envelopes to slightly change the ghost note volume in different sections. Even a 1 dB shift can add life.
Resample later if you want heavier character. Once the groove is working, record the bass to audio and edit the waveform for extra control.

Mini Practice Exercise

Spend 10–20 minutes building a ghost-note bass loop:

1. Set Live to 172 BPM.

2. Make a 2-bar drum loop with kick, snare, and a simple break.

3. Load Operator on a MIDI track and create a short sine-based bass sound.

4. Write one main bass note pattern for the 2 bars.

5. Add one ghost note in each bar at low velocity.

6. Shorten the ghost note so it is tighter than the main note.

7. Add EQ Eight and make one small cut in the low-mid area if needed.

8. Add Saturator with 2–4 dB Drive and Soft Clip on.

9. Put Utility last and keep the bass mono.

10. Loop it for 2 minutes and make only three changes:

- move one note

- change one velocity

- remove one ghost note for contrast

Goal: make the groove feel stronger without making the bass busier.

Recap

A ghost note is a quiet support note that adds movement and tension to a DnB bassline.

In Ableton Live, build it with MIDI timing, velocity, short note lengths, EQ Eight, Saturator, and Utility.
Keep the sub mono, tight, and controlled.
The ghost note should be felt more than heard.
In jungle and oldskool DnB, this technique helps your drop feel more alive, more rolling, and more dancefloor-ready.

Extra coach notes

Think “push/pull,” not “extra bass.” The ghost note works best when it slightly nudges the groove forward or backward against the drums. If it sounds like a second main note, it’s probably too loud or too long.
Start with the rhythm first, then choose the pitch. In jungle and oldskool DnB, a good low-end rhythm can matter more than the exact note choice. Once the timing feels right, tweak pitch to fit the root or create tension.
Leave room for the snare. If your ghost note lands too close to the backbeat and steals impact, move it a few ticks earlier or later instead of EQ’ing harder.
Use your ears in context. A ghost note that sounds weak solo can be perfect with the break. Judge it in the full loop, not on its own.
Keep the bass patch simple while learning. Clean oscillator shape, short envelope, and a controlled chain will teach you more than a complicated preset.

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Advanced variation ideas

Offset the ghost note slightly off-grid. A tiny late placement can make it feel more human and more “swingy.” Try nudging it a few milliseconds behind the beat and compare.
Change the ghost note pitch by one scale step. Instead of duplicating the main note exactly, try a neighboring note for a passing motion. This can create that classic rolling DnB tension.
Alternate ghost-note lengths. Make one ghost note super short and the next slightly longer. That contrast can give the loop a more breathing, live feel.
Mute the ghost note every 4th bar. The absence of the note creates more impact when it returns.
Use velocity as a pattern. For example, make ghost note velocities rise gradually over 4 bars, then reset. This adds motion without adding new notes.
Try a two-ghost approach. One ghost note can live in the sub, while a second very quiet note sits higher up as a midrange hint. Keep the upper layer filtered so it doesn’t sound like a separate bassline.

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Sound design extras

Layer a soft attack layer. Add a second instrument with a very quiet click or filtered noise to help the bass read on smaller speakers. Keep it high-passed so it doesn’t interfere with the sub.
Use a touch of pitch glide. A tiny glide between notes can make the ghost note feel more liquid and oldskool, especially on short phrases.
Add a filtered reese layer only for the ghost note. If your bass sound is too plain, duplicate the MIDI to a second track, high-pass it, and give it a gentle detuned character. This keeps the sub clean while adding attitude.
Shape harmonics with saturation order. Try EQ before Saturator, then another gentle EQ after. That way you control what gets distorted and tidy up the result afterward.
Use transient control carefully. If your bass feels too soft, a small envelope adjustment can help the note speak without making it louder.
Resample and re-edit. Once the groove works, record the bass to audio and chop tiny bits of it. This can give you that more authentic jungle feel and lets you place ghost hits with total precision.

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Arrangement upgrade ideas

Build a question-and-answer phrase. Let the main bass answer the kick pattern in one bar, then let the ghost note answer the snare or break fill in the next bar.
Use the ghost note as a tension builder. Bring it in quietly during the last 2 bars before the drop, then remove it for the first hit of the drop so the impact feels bigger.
Create a “second-half lift.” Keep the first 4 bars sparse, then increase ghost-note activity in bars 5–8 to make the drop evolve naturally.
Add a micro-fill before transitions. A short ghost note with a slightly different length or pitch can act like a tiny bass fill before a break switch.
Duplicate the drop and simplify the copy. For the next 8 bars, remove one ghost note, then add a different one later. Small variation is often enough to keep the listener engaged.
Let the drums breathe. If the break gets busy, reduce the bass activity. If the drums thin out, bring the ghost note back. This call-and-response approach is very effective in oldskool-style arrangements.

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Homework challenge

Build a 4-bar jungle bass loop using only stock Ableton tools.

Rules

Tempo: 172 BPM
Use one bass sound only
Add at least 2 ghost notes
Keep the low end mono
Make one variation in the second half of the loop

Steps

1. Write a simple kick/snare/break loop.

2. Make a bass phrase with one clear main note per bar.

3. Add two ghost notes that support the groove without sounding obvious.

4. Use velocity changes instead of volume automation for at least one ghost note.

5. Add Saturator to help the quieter note translate.

6. Check the loop in mono.

7. Duplicate the loop and change just one detail:

- a note position

- a note pitch

- a note length

- or a ghost note being removed

Success check

When you mute the ghost notes, the loop should feel flatter.

When you bring them back, the bassline should feel more alive and more danceable.

If you want, I can also make a next-step companion section for this lesson on how to turn the ghost note idea into a full Reese bassline in Ableton Live 12.

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Welcome back, and let’s get into a classic jungle and oldskool DnB trick that can make your low end feel way bigger without actually overcrowding the mix.

Today we’re carving a ghost note for floor-shaking low end in Ableton Live 12.

And if that sounds fancy, don’t worry. At a beginner level, all a ghost note really is, is a very quiet bass note that lives underneath the main bassline. It’s the little shadow note. It’s the push and pull. It’s the thing that makes the groove feel alive instead of just sitting there.

In DnB, especially jungle and oldskool styles, that matters a lot. The bass can’t just be heavy. It has to move with the drums. It has to leave space for the snare. It has to keep the low end tight, mono, and clean, while still feeling like it’s rolling forward with attitude.

So in this lesson, we’re going to build a simple bass loop using stock Ableton tools only. We’ll use MIDI notes, Operator or Wavetable, EQ Eight, Saturator, Utility, and a little bit of automation. Nothing complicated. Just a clean setup that teaches you the right habits.

First, set your tempo around 172 BPM. That’s a great zone for jungle and oldskool DnB energy. Then build a simple drum loop. Keep it basic at first. Kick, snare, and maybe a break or a hat pattern. The key here is not to distract yourself with too many drum ideas. You want enough rhythm playing that you can actually hear what the bass is doing against it.

Now create a new MIDI track and load Operator. Operator is perfect for this because it’s simple, clean, and great for sub-heavy bass. If you want to use Wavetable instead, that’s fine too, but Operator is the easiest starting point for this lesson.

Set up a simple sine wave or a very clean low-end sound. Keep the envelope tight. Fast attack, short decay, little or no release. We want a bass sound that responds quickly and doesn’t smear over the next hit.

Here’s an important teacher tip right away: keep the sound simple while you’re learning the technique. A plain bass patch teaches you more than a huge preset full of movement and effects. We’re trying to understand groove first.

Now write your main bass note pattern.

Start with one strong note that supports the drums. In oldskool DnB and jungle, this often means placing the bass in the gaps, not on top of the kick and snare. A simple starting idea could be no bass on beat 1, then a bass hit around beat 2.3, and another hit later in the bar, maybe around beat 4. Keep it short. Around one eighth to one quarter note is a good starting range.

The exact notes matter less than the rhythm at this stage. Seriously. In this style, the low-end rhythm is often more important than trying to write something harmonically clever. Start with a comfortable root area, like F, G, or A, depending on your track. Keep it simple and playable.

Once your main note is working, it’s time for the ghost note.

This is the secret sauce.

Duplicate the main idea and place a second note nearby, but much quieter. This ghost note should feel like it’s nudging the groove, not taking over the bassline. Think push and pull, not extra bass.

Good places for a ghost note are just before the main note, just after it, or in the gap between kick and snare. You’re looking for that almost-heard movement that makes the listener feel the bass line is breathing.

Set the ghost note velocity much lower than the main note. If the main note is around 90 to 120 in velocity, try the ghost note around 20 to 50. That’s often enough to make it tuck back into the groove.

If velocity isn’t doing enough on its own, lower the clip gain or track volume a little. And if needed, you can even shift the ghost note by an octave for a bit more sub support, but be careful. The goal is not a second main bass hit. The goal is a quiet little low-end accent.

Now let’s talk note length, because this is huge in DnB.

If your note overlaps too much, the low end turns muddy fast. So keep the main notes short and the ghost note even shorter. A ghost note around a sixteenth to an eighth note is often enough. Trim the ends in the MIDI editor. Leave a little breathing room. Let the drums breathe.

This is one of those places where less really is more. A tiny note that lands cleanly is way more powerful than a long note that blurs into everything else.

Next, add EQ Eight after the instrument.

Don’t overthink this part. We’re not trying to make the ghost note louder. We’re trying to make it sit better.

If the patch has any rumble below the useful sub range, you can gently high-pass around 25 to 35 Hz. If the bass feels cloudy, try a small dip in the low mids somewhere around 120 to 250 Hz. Just a few dB at most.

And here’s a good beginner rule: make small changes and always listen in context. Soloing the bass for too long can trick you. The ghost note might sound tiny by itself, but in the full drum loop it might be exactly right.

Now add Saturator.

This is where the quiet note starts becoming audible on smaller speakers. A lot of ghost notes disappear on laptop speakers unless they have some harmonics. Saturator helps create those harmonics.

Try around 2 to 6 dB of Drive, with Soft Clip on. Keep an eye on the output so you’re not just making the track louder by accident. You want the bass to stay controlled.

If the sound gets too fuzzy, back the drive off a bit. The goal is to help the ghost note read, not to destroy the low end. In jungle and darker DnB, saturation can make the bass feel more alive and more characterful, but only if the rhythm is already working.

After that, add Utility at the end of the chain.

This is where we keep the low end stable and mono. Set the width to 0 percent if you’re working on a pure sub layer. In DnB, especially in club-focused styles, big low end comes from stability, not stereo width. If the bass gets wide down low, it can sound impressive in solo but fall apart on a sound system.

So check mono. If the ghost note vanishes or the bass suddenly feels hollow, that’s a sign you’ve got too much stereo content or too much low-end complexity. Simplify it. Keep it centered.

Now that the loop is working, let’s add a little movement.

You do not need wild automation here. In fact, subtle is usually better. You could automate the filter cutoff to open slightly into the drop. You could raise Saturator drive by just a little in the second eight bars. You could bring the ghost note up by a tiny amount later in the arrangement. Little moves. Not dramatic ones.

A really strong arrangement trick in jungle and oldskool DnB is to use the ghost note more in the second half of the drop. That way, the energy climbs naturally. You can also remove it for a bar or two before bringing it back, which creates tension and makes the return hit harder.

Now test everything against the drums.

Ask yourself three things. Can I still feel the kick? Does the snare have room? And can I feel the bass pulse without the ghost note sounding like a separate loud note?

If the answer is no, simplify.

Move the ghost note a few ticks earlier or later. Lower the velocity. Shorten the note. Take a tiny bit out of the low mids. Or just reduce the bass track by one or two dB. Usually the fix is small.

That’s one of the most important lessons in DnB production: the low end should feel powerful because it is controlled, not because it is huge.

Let’s turn this into a real loop now.

Take your two-bar idea and expand it into an eight-bar drop section. For bars one and two, use the main bass plus the ghost note. For bars three and four, remove the ghost note for contrast. Then bring it back in bars five and six with a slight variation. Then use bars seven and eight for a little fill or break edit that leads to the next section.

That’s enough to make the idea feel like an actual track section, not just a practice loop.

And if you want to go a step further, duplicate the loop and change just one detail in the second pass. Maybe move one note. Maybe change one ghost note length. Maybe mute the ghost note for a bar. Those tiny changes can make a huge difference in how alive the groove feels.

A couple of common mistakes to watch out for.

First, making the ghost note too loud. If you can clearly hear it as a second bassline, it’s probably too much.

Second, using too much stereo width in the sub. Keep the low end centered.

Third, letting the notes overlap too much. Tighten them up.

Fourth, adding saturation before the rhythm feels right. Always get the MIDI groove working first.

And fifth, trying to design the bass without listening to the drums. In DnB, the bassline never lives alone. It always has to work with the kick, snare, and break.

Here’s a quick practice challenge for you.

Set Ableton to 172 BPM. Build a two-bar drum loop. Load Operator with a clean sine bass. Write one main bass pattern. Add one ghost note in each bar at low velocity. Shorten the ghost note so it’s tighter than the main note. Add a small EQ cut if needed. Add Saturator with a little drive. Put Utility last and keep the bass mono. Then loop it for a couple of minutes and make only three changes: move one note, change one velocity, and remove one ghost note for contrast.

That’s the exercise. Keep it focused.

And when it works, you’ll notice something important: the bassline doesn’t just sound bigger. It feels more alive. More rolling. More dancefloor-ready. That’s the power of a well-placed ghost note.

So remember the core idea here. A ghost note is not just extra bass. It’s rhythmic tension. It’s movement. It’s a subtle shadow under the main line that helps your jungle or oldskool DnB bass hit harder without getting messy.

Keep it short. Keep it quiet. Keep it mono. And always listen in context with the drums.

That’s the lesson. Great work, and I’ll see you in the next one.

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