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Modulate oldskool DnB swing for deep jungle atmosphere in Ableton Live 12 (Intermediate)

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Modulate Oldskool DnB Swing for Deep Jungle Atmosphere (Ableton Live 12) 🥁🌿

Skill level: Intermediate

Category: Automation (timing + feel modulation)

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1. Lesson overview

Oldskool jungle swing isn’t just “add groove and done.” The deep atmosphere comes from controlled instability—tiny timing changes that evolve over 8–32 bars, pushing and pulling against a steady bassline and pads.

In this lesson you’ll learn how to modulate swing over time in Ableton Live 12 using Grooves, automation, Velocity, and micro-timing, while keeping your drums punchy and your roll consistent.

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2. What you will build

A 2-step / oldskool break hybrid that morphs its groove across an arrangement:

  • A steady core grid (kick/snare anchors don’t drift)
  • A break layer that breathes (swing + timing movement evolves)
  • Automation lanes controlling:
  • - Groove amount (via clip groove strength + resampling workflow)

    - Hit timing (Track Delay / micro-shifts per layer)

    - Velocity and ghost-note emphasis

  • A jungle-ready drum chain using stock Live 12 devices:
  • - Drum Rack / Simpler

    - EQ Eight

    - Saturator

    - Drum Buss

    - Compressor / Glue Compressor

    - Utility

    - Auto Filter (for atmosphere movement)

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    3. Step-by-step walkthrough

    Step 0 — Session setup (so swing feels right)

    1. Set tempo: 165–172 BPM (try 170 BPM).

    2. Set Global Quantization to 1 Bar (for clean launching) or 1/4 (for fast experiments).

    3. Create groups:

    - DRUMS (Group)

    - `Kick+Snare (Anchor)`

    - `Break Layer (Swing)`

    - `Hats/Shakers (Top)`

    - `BASS`

    - `PADS/ATMOS`

    Why: you’ll modulate swing mostly on Break + Tops, while Anchor stays tight.

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    Step 1 — Build an “anchor” 2-step that never lies 🎯

    On Kick+Snare (Anchor), make a clean 1-bar pattern:

  • Kick: 1.1.1, and optionally 1.3.1 (classic stepping feel)
  • Snare: 1.2.1 and 1.4.1 (hard backbeat)
  • Keep these straight (no groove)
  • Device chain (Anchor track):

    1. EQ Eight

    - HP filter at 25–35 Hz (12 dB/Oct)

    - Small cut if boxy: 250–400 Hz (–2 to –4 dB)

    2. Drum Buss

    - Drive: 3–8% (taste)

    - Boom: 0–10% (careful in jungle—break already has low-mid)

    3. Glue Compressor (optional)

    - Ratio 2:1, Attack 10 ms, Release Auto, GR 1–2 dB

    This anchor keeps your groove readable even when the break gets slippery.

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    Step 2 — Add a break layer that will carry the swing 🧨

    Create a Break Layer (Swing) MIDI or audio track:

    Option A: Audio break (classic)

    1. Drop a break (Amen, Think, etc.) into Simpler → Slice mode.

    2. Slice by: Transient

    3. Convert to Drum Rack (right click) if you want per-slice control.

    Option B: MIDI break kit

    Use Drum Rack with break-style hits: snare ghosts, hat ticks, ride fragments.

    Key rule: Keep the break layer slightly quieter than the anchor. Let it be “motion,” not the main snare.

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    Step 3 — Choose a groove (oldskool swing base) 🕺

    1. Open the Groove Pool.

    2. Load grooves like:

    - MPC 16 Swing variants

    - SP-1200 / Logic / Swing styles (whatever your library has)

    - If unsure: start with 16 Swing 57–63 style territory

    3. Drag the groove onto the Break Layer clip (not the anchor).

    Groove settings starting point:

  • Timing: 55–70
  • Random: 2–8
  • Velocity: 10–25
  • Base: 1/16
  • This gives you movement without instantly wrecking the pocket.

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    Step 4 — The core trick: “Modulated swing” using clip automation + printing 🎛️

    Ableton doesn’t directly let you automate Groove Pool parameters globally in the simplest way across many clips—but you can automate per-clip Groove Amount and print variations to create evolving swing.

    #### Method 1: Automate Groove Amount inside the clip (fast + musical)

    1. Click your break MIDI clip (or audio clip if warped and grooved).

    2. In the Clip View, locate Groove amount (the strength slider for that clip’s groove).

    3. In Arrangement View, show automation for the clip:

    - Choose the clip’s automation lane

    - Find Clip → Groove Amount (or the clip’s groove strength parameter)

    Automation idea (8 bars):

  • Bars 1–2: 20–30% (tight intro)
  • Bars 3–4: ramp to 45–55%
  • Bars 5–6: dip to 35–40%
  • Bars 7–8: push to 60–70% (pre-drop agitation)
  • This creates an evolving “human push/pull” without changing the anchor.

    #### Method 2: Print swing stages (best for consistency + resampling)

    1. Duplicate your break clip into 4 versions (A/B/C/D).

    2. Set groove amount per clip:

    - A: 25%

    - B: 40%

    - C: 55%

    - D: 70%

    3. Commit (for MIDI): click Commit in Groove Pool (or “Commit Groove” if available in your version) so timing becomes actual note positions.

    4. Arrange clips across a 16–32 bar phrase:

    - 1–8 bars: A → B

    - 9–16: B → C

    - 17–24: C → B

    - 25–32: C → D (energy lift)

    This is the “oldskool editing” approach—reliable and super DnB.

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    Step 5 — Add micro-timing movement without wrecking the snare 🧩

    Now we add subtle drift using Track Delay and/or micro nudges.

    #### Track Delay (simple, effective)

    On Break Layer, open the mixer (Session view) and find Track Delay.

  • Start with +5 ms (late feel = heavier) or –5 ms (early = urgent)
  • Automate it gently:
  • - Verse: +3 to +7 ms

    - Build: drift toward 0 ms

    - Drop: lock around +2 ms

    Important: Don’t automate huge values. Over ±12 ms gets sloppy fast at 170 BPM.

    #### Micro-nudge only the ghosts (surgical jungle)

    If your break is MIDI slices:

  • Select only ghost snares and hat ticks
  • Nudge them late by 5–15 ms
  • Keep main snare slices locked close to the grid (or only slightly late)
  • This creates that deep “dragging” jungle tail behind a solid backbeat.

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    Step 6 — Velocity automation: swing isn’t just timing 🎚️

    To make swing feel atmospheric (not just shuffled), modulate dynamics.

    On your Break Layer MIDI:

    1. Increase ghost note variation:

    - Ghost snares: velocity 20–55

    - Hats: 30–80 with slight randomness

    2. Automate intensity across sections:

    - In the MIDI clip, automate Velocity (or use Velocity MIDI effect)

    Velocity device (MIDI effect) starting point:

  • Drive: 10–25
  • Random: 5–15
  • Automate Drive up slightly in builds (adds “hands-on” energy)
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    Step 7 — Atmosphere swing: filter + reverb sends that follow the groove 🌫️

    Deep jungle atmosphere happens when the groove modulates the space too.

    #### Create two return tracks:

  • Return A: Jungle Verb
  • - Hybrid Reverb

    - Algorithmic / Plate or Hall

    - Decay: 1.8–3.5 s

    - Pre-delay: 15–30 ms

    - EQ Eight after reverb

    - HP at 200–350 Hz

    - Dip harshness 3–6 kHz if needed

  • Return B: Dark Echo
  • - Echo

    - Time: 1/8 Dotted or 1/4

    - Feedback: 20–35%

    - Filter: HP around 250 Hz, LP 6–9 kHz

    Now automate the break’s send levels:

  • Verses: Verb send low (–20 to –14 dB)
  • Pre-drop: Verb send rises (–14 to –10 dB)
  • Drop: pull it back slightly so drums stay forward
  • Optional: automate Auto Filter on the break track:

  • LP cutoff sweeps between 8–16 kHz during transitions (subtle, not EDM obvious)
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    Step 8 — Glue it like a record: parallel crunch + controlled transients 🔥

    On your DRUMS group:

    Chain example (stock):

    1. Saturator

    - Soft Clip: ON

    - Drive: 2–6 dB

    2. Drum Buss

    - Drive: 2–5

    - Transients: +5 to +15 (only if you didn’t already over-smack the break)

    3. Compressor (not too much)

    - Ratio 2:1, Attack 10–30 ms, Release Auto

    - Aim 1–3 dB GR

    If the swing starts to disappear, you’re over-gluing—back off compression first.

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    Step 9 — Arrangement idea: swing as narrative (32 bars) 📐

    Use swing modulation as a storyline:

  • Bars 1–8 (Intro): Break groove amount ~25–35%, more reverb, less hats
  • Bars 9–16 (Roll-in): Groove rises to 45–55%, track delay slightly later
  • Bars 17–24 (Drop 1): Groove stable 45–55%, reverb send reduced, hats brighter
  • Bars 25–32 (Variation): Push groove to 60–70% on fills only (every 4 bars), add extra ghost hits
  • Pro move: only push max swing on fill bars (end of 8/16), not constantly.

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    4. Common mistakes ❌

  • Swinging the anchor snare: if your main snare moves, the whole track feels drunk. Keep anchor tight.
  • Too much Random in the Groove Pool: Random is great in tiny doses; too high makes breaks sound “broken.”
  • Over-compression on the drum bus: it flattens micro-timing and kills the “breath.”
  • Late kick + late break + late bass: if everything drags, it loses drive. Offset only one layer at a time.
  • Not checking against bass: heavy reese/sub needs stable timing; swing drums around it, not through it.
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    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🖤

  • Late break, tight sub: Keep bass notes grid-locked, let the break sit +3 to +8 ms late for weight.
  • Ghost snare saturation: Put Saturator on the break only, and automate Drive slightly during fills for “ragey” tails.
  • Band-limit the break for vibe: Use EQ Eight to LP around 10–14 kHz to get that aged, humid jungle tone.
  • Use Utility for mono discipline: Keep lows mono on the DRUMS group (or at least kick region).
  • Automate swing only on tops in the drop: If the drop needs punch, reduce swing on snare slices but keep hat swing alive.
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    6. Mini practice exercise 🎯

    Goal: Make an 8-bar loop that “breathes” without losing impact.

    1. Build a 2-step anchor (kick/snare straight).

    2. Add a sliced Amen (or similar) as break layer.

    3. Apply a groove (Timing ~60, Random 4, Velocity 15).

    4. Automate break clip Groove Amount:

    - Bar 1: 25%

    - Bar 4: 55%

    - Bar 8: 35%

    5. Automate Track Delay on the break:

    - Bar 1: +6 ms

    - Bar 8: +2 ms

    6. Add reverb send automation (rise into bar 4, pull back after).

    Checkpoint: Mute the break. Anchor should still slam. Unmute the break. The loop should feel more alive, not messy.

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    7. Recap ✅

  • Keep kick/snare anchors tight; swing the break + tops for vibe.
  • Use Groove Amount automation (or printed groove stages) to create evolving oldskool feel.
  • Add subtle Track Delay and ghost-note micro-timing for deep jungle drag.
  • Support the swing with velocity movement and space automation (reverb/echo).
  • Don’t over-glue—micro-timing is part of the sound.

If you want, tell me whether you’re using audio breaks or MIDI drums, and I’ll tailor a specific groove/modulation template (including exact automation curves for a 32-bar arrangement).

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Welcome back. In this Ableton Live 12 lesson we’re going to do something that instantly pushes a drum and bass loop into that deep, humid, oldskool jungle zone: we’re going to modulate swing over time.

And I want to set the mindset right away. Oldskool jungle swing is not “pick a groove template and you’re done.” The magic is controlled instability. Tiny timing shifts that evolve over 8, 16, even 32 bars, while your kick and snare stay authoritative. The listener feels like the drums are alive, but the track never loses direction.

Here’s what you’ll build: a hybrid 2-step plus break layer, where the anchor stays tight, and the break and tops breathe. We’ll use groove amount changes, track delay micro-drift, velocity movement, and a little space automation so the atmosphere follows the feel.

Step zero: session setup, so the swing actually feels right.

Set your tempo somewhere between 165 and 172 BPM. I like 170 for this. Set Global Quantization to 1 bar if you want clean launching and arrangement changes, or to a quarter note if you’re experimenting quickly and you want to hear changes instantly.

Now create a simple structure: a DRUMS group with three tracks inside it. One called Kick+Snare Anchor. One called Break Layer Swing. One called Hats Shakers Top. Then separate tracks for Bass and Pads or Atmos.

This grouping matters because we’re going to swing the break and tops while the anchor stays honest. That’s the whole “deep but stable” jungle trick.

Step one: build the anchor 2-step that never lies.

On the Kick+Snare Anchor track, program a clean one-bar pattern. Put your kick on the one. Optionally add a second kick on the three for that classic stepping feel. Put your snare on beat two and beat four.

And here’s the rule: keep this straight. No groove template on the anchor. If your main snare starts wandering, the whole record starts feeling drunk. Jungle can be loose, but the backbeat has to be trusted.

Add a simple device chain so it sounds like a record but still punches. Start with EQ Eight. High-pass around 25 to 35 Hz just to remove useless sub rumble. If it’s boxy, dip a couple dB somewhere around 250 to 400 Hz.

Then Drum Buss. Use a little drive, something like 3 to 8 percent depending on your samples, and be careful with Boom because a break layer already carries low-mid energy.

Optionally add Glue Compressor, gentle settings. Ratio 2 to 1, attack around 10 milliseconds, release on Auto, and only 1 to 2 dB of gain reduction. If you’re doing more than that, you’re probably flattening the groove we’re about to create.

Step two: add the break layer that will carry the swing.

Create a track called Break Layer Swing. You can do this with a classic audio break, like Amen or Think, or you can do it with MIDI drums that mimic break-style ghosts and ticks.

If you’re going audio, drop the break into Simpler, switch to Slice mode, slice by Transient, and if you want more control, convert that to a Drum Rack so each slice has its own chain.

Key rule: the break layer should be slightly quieter than the anchor. Think of the anchor as the spine. The break is motion and texture. When the break becomes the main snare, the groove often gets messy fast, especially once we start modulating.

Step three: choose an oldskool groove as the base.

Open the Groove Pool. Load something like MPC 16 Swing variants, or any swing templates you like. If you’re unsure, aim for that 16 Swing around 57 to 63 territory as a starting vibe.

Drag the groove onto your break clip, not onto the anchor.

Now set a starting point in the Groove Pool. Timing around 55 to 70. Random around 2 to 8. Velocity around 10 to 25. Base at 1/16.

Teacher note here: Random is like hot sauce. A tiny bit makes it tasty. Too much and you can’t taste the actual groove anymore. In jungle, you want intention, not chaos.

Step four: the core trick, modulated swing over time.

Ableton doesn’t make it super convenient to automate Groove Pool parameters globally across an entire set of clips in one move. But you can absolutely automate the groove strength per clip, and you can also print multiple swing states and arrange them like classic oldskool editing.

Let’s do the fast musical method first: automate groove amount inside the clip.

Click your break clip. In the clip view, you’ll see the groove strength or groove amount for that clip. Now go to Arrangement View and show automation for the clip, and choose the parameter for the clip’s Groove Amount.

Now draw an 8-bar story. For bars 1 and 2, keep it tight, around 20 to 30 percent. Bars 3 and 4, ramp it up to about 45 to 55. Bars 5 and 6, dip it back to 35 or 40. Bars 7 and 8, push toward 60 or 70 so it gets a little agitated heading into a transition.

This is the “controlled instability” move. The listener hears the drummer leaning into phrases, not a static shuffle.

Now the second method, which is more like the old way and it’s super reliable: print swing stages.

Duplicate your break clip into four versions. Call them A, B, C, D mentally. Set groove amount to 25 percent on A, 40 on B, 55 on C, 70 on D.

Then commit the groove so the timing becomes real note positions. For MIDI, that’s typically the Commit function in the Groove Pool. The advantage is consistency: you’re not relying on a live groove calculation, and your edits become “baked.”

Arrange them across a 16 to 32 bar phrase. For example, 1 to 8 bars A to B. 9 to 16 B to C. 17 to 24 C back to B. 25 to 32 C to D for a lift.

This method feels extremely DnB because it’s basically how people used to edit breaks: print, duplicate, re-arrange, repeat.

Step five: micro-timing movement without wrecking the snare.

Now we add drift, but we do it carefully. Two main tools: track delay, and micro nudging only the ghost notes.

First, track delay. On the Break Layer, find Track Delay in the mixer section. Start with plus 5 milliseconds, which makes it feel later and heavier. Or try minus 5 if you want it urgent and slightly ahead.

Then automate it gently. In a verse you might sit around plus 3 to plus 7 milliseconds. In a build, drift toward zero. On the drop, lock around plus 2 milliseconds.

Important warning: at 170 BPM, more than about plus or minus 12 milliseconds starts sounding sloppy, not funky. If you feel like you need huge delay to get vibe, something else is off, usually levels, velocity balance, or over-compression.

Now the surgical method: micro nudge only the ghosts.

If your break is MIDI slices, select just the ghost snares and hat ticks, and nudge them later by 5 to 15 milliseconds. Keep the main snare slices locked close to the grid, or only slightly late. That’s where you get that dragging tail behind a solid backbeat.

And a quick coach note: micro-timing is most audible on repeats. So do these changes in phrase lengths, like 4, 8, or 16 bars, and let the listener hear the same “type of push” at least twice. That’s how it reads as intentional.

Step six: velocity automation, because swing isn’t just timing.

If your timing is perfect but the velocities are flat, it still won’t feel like jungle. It’ll feel like a loop with shuffle.

On the break layer, give ghost snares a wide range, like velocity 20 to 55. Hats maybe 30 to 80, with slight randomness.

You can also use the Velocity MIDI effect. Start with Drive around 10 to 25, Random around 5 to 15, and automate Drive slightly up in build sections. That little push makes the break feel like hands getting more excited.

Step seven: make the atmosphere follow the groove.

Deep jungle isn’t only drum timing. It’s the space moving with it.

Create two return tracks. Return A, a jungle reverb. Use Hybrid Reverb, plate or hall. Decay around 1.8 to 3.5 seconds. Pre-delay around 15 to 30 milliseconds so the reverb doesn’t swallow the transient. Put EQ Eight after it and high-pass around 200 to 350 Hz. If it’s harsh, dip a bit around 3 to 6 kHz.

Return B, a dark echo. Use Echo. Set time to 1/8 dotted or 1/4. Feedback around 20 to 35 percent. Filter it: high-pass around 250 Hz, low-pass around 6 to 9 kHz.

Now automate the break’s send levels. In verses, keep the verb send low, like minus 20 to minus 14 dB. Pre-drop, rise toward minus 14 to minus 10. On the drop, pull it back slightly so drums stay forward.

Optional but effective: put Auto Filter on the break track and do subtle low-pass sweeps between 8 and 16 kHz during transitions. Not big EDM sweeps. Just a little weather change.

Extra pro atmosphere trick: on your reverb return, add a compressor after the reverb and sidechain it from the anchor snare. Every time the main snare hits, the reverb ducks slightly. That lets you run more fog without losing definition.

Step eight: glue it like a record, but don’t kill the breath.

On the DRUMS group, add Saturator first. Soft Clip on. Drive 2 to 6 dB. Then Drum Buss, drive 2 to 5. If you need more snap, add a bit of transient, like plus 5 to plus 15, but only if you didn’t already over-smack the break.

Then a light compressor. Ratio 2 to 1, attack 10 to 30 milliseconds, release Auto. Aim for 1 to 3 dB of gain reduction.

If the swing starts to disappear, you’re over-gluing. Back off compression first. Micro-timing is part of the sound; don’t iron it out.

Quick coach tool: use a timing governor check.

Put all drum layers in the DRUMS group. Add Utility at the top of the group and map its gain to a macro called DRUMS SOLO CHECK. Every time you get lost in tiny timing edits, pull the group down about 6 dB and listen quieter. If the groove still feels like it’s rolling forward at low volume, you’re good. If it just feels late, you probably delayed too many layers at once.

Also, if you’re layering a clean snare with a break snare slice, do a phase sanity check. Flip polarity on one layer using Utility phase invert left and right, and choose the position that keeps the low-mid around 150 to 400 Hz more solid. Timing edits can turn phase issues into “random punch loss,” and it’ll drive you insane unless you check it.

Step nine: arrangement, swing as narrative.

Here’s a simple 32-bar breathing map.

Bars 1 to 8: minimal movement. Groove amount around 25 to 35 percent. More reverb, fewer hats. Establish the pocket.

Bars 9 to 16: loosen up. Groove rises toward 45 to 55 percent. Track delay slightly later. Maybe a little more ghost activity.

Bars 17 to 24: impact zone. Tighten slightly. Keep groove stable around 45 to 55, pull reverb sends down, make hats a touch brighter.

Bars 25 to 32: exaggerated swing, but mostly on fills. Push to 60 to 70 percent every 4 bars, like at the end of bar 8, 16, 24, 32, rather than leaving it maxed constantly.

And here’s a nasty drop impact trick: remove swing for one bar right at the drop. Make bar 1 noticeably straighter on the break, or reduce its delay, then return to your looser setting on bar 2. That contrast creates perceived impact without touching levels.

Advanced variation idea if you want even more control: create swing contrast with an anti-groove top loop.

Keep your break swung, but make your hat and shaker loop slightly straighter. You can do that by using the same groove but with lower timing amount on tops, or use a more rigid groove template on tops. The break will feel deeper without turning everything into shuffle soup.

Another classic oldskool logic: tight bar, loose bar. Make a two-bar loop where bar one is controlled, bar two is looser with more groove strength or a tiny extra delay. Repeat that across 8 or 16 bars and it reads like a drummer leaning into every second bar.

Now let’s lock in the common mistakes so you can avoid them.

Don’t swing the anchor snare. Don’t crank random too high. Don’t over-compress the drum bus. And don’t make everything late: if the kick is late, the break is late, and the bass is late, the track loses drive. Offset one layer at a time.

Also, always check against the bass. Keep the sub and main bass rhythm grid-locked. Let the drums swing around it, not through it. Late break and tight sub is one of the cleanest “heavy but deep” combos you can do.

Mini practice exercise to end this lesson.

Make an 8-bar loop. Straight anchor 2-step. Add a sliced Amen as the break layer. Apply a groove with timing around 60, random 4, velocity 15.

Automate break clip groove amount: bar 1 at 25 percent, bar 4 at 55 percent, bar 8 at 35 percent.

Automate track delay on the break: bar 1 plus 6 milliseconds, bar 8 plus 2 milliseconds.

Then automate the reverb send: rise into bar 4 and pull back after.

Checkpoint: mute the break. The anchor should still slam. Unmute the break. The loop should feel more alive, not more messy.

That’s the whole philosophy: anchor stays true, break and tops do the dancing, and the atmosphere follows the groove.

If you tell me one thing before you move on, tell me this: is your break layer audio slices in Simpler, or is it MIDI hits in a Drum Rack? And I can suggest a specific “State 1 versus State 2” template, with exact groove timing amounts, random ranges, delay ranges, and which hits to nudge for a 32 or 48 bar jungle arrangement.

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