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Retro Rave edit: a jungle fill flip from scratch in Ableton Live 12 (Advanced)

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Lesson Overview

This lesson is about building a retro rave edit: a jungle fill that flips into a new bass movement from scratch in Ableton Live 12, then placing it so it actually earns its keep in a Drum & Bass arrangement. The goal is not just “make a cool fill,” but to create a DJ-friendly, bar-aware, tension-building bass edit that sounds like it belongs in a proper jungle-to-rave crossover track, a darker roller, or a high-energy neuro/jungle hybrid.

This technique lives in the transition zones of a DnB track: the last half of a 16-bar phrase, the end of an 8-bar drum cycle, the last two bars before a drop, or the turnaround before a second-drop switch-up. Musically, it’s the moment where the track stops being a loop and starts feeling like a record. Technically, it matters because a jungle fill can do three jobs at once: carry momentum, reset the ear, and reveal a new bass identity without blowing up the low end or losing the groove.

This best suits:

  • retro rave / jungle-influenced DnB
  • dark rollers with old-school references
  • break-led neuro or techstep with a throwback edit
  • intros, drop turnarounds, or second-drop variation

    • By the end, you should be able to hear a fill that feels like a controlled burst of break energy and bass stabs, with enough movement to excite the dancefloor but enough low-end discipline to keep the kick and sub intact. A successful result should sound like a recognisable old-school-inspired jungle moment that lands with modern weight — exciting, rhythmic, and mix-ready rather than messy.

    What You Will Build

    You will build a four-bar jungle fill flip made from:

  • a chopped break or drum fill
  • a short bass response phrase
  • a filtered or distorted rave accent
  • a final bar that “opens” into the next section

    • The finished sound should have:

  • retro rave character without sounding like a random sample pile
  • a syncopated, forward-leaning rhythmic feel
  • a clear role as a transition or switch-up
  • enough polish to sit in a rough arrangement and still feel intentional
  • solid mono-compatible low end, with the sub kept simple and readable

    • Success sounds like this: the ear recognises the jungle lineage immediately, but the bassline still hits like a modern DnB record. The fill should create a short spike of excitement, then resolve cleanly into the next groove, with the low end never becoming vague or flabby.

    Step-by-Step Walkthrough

    1. Set up the phrase first, not the sound

    In Ableton Live, start with an 8-bar loop around the section where the fill will live. Put your drums, main bass, and any atmosphere in place so the fill is judged in context from the start. For a retro rave edit, the best placement is usually the last 2 bars of a 16-bar phrase or the last 1 bar before a drop change.

    Create a new MIDI track for the fill bass and another for the break edit if they’re separate. If you’re working from an existing drum loop, duplicate the relevant drum track and turn that duplicate into your fill lane so you can edit without breaking the main groove.

    Why this matters: jungle fills are phrasing devices, not isolated sound-design flexes. If the fill doesn’t answer the drums and the bass together, it will feel pasted on.

    What to listen for: the moment the fill starts, the energy should rise without making the kick/bass relationship collapse. If the groove suddenly feels like “everything at once,” you’ve probably overloaded the phrase.

    2. Choose your source material: break-first or bass-first

    Here’s the first real decision point:

    A) Break-first approach if you want a more authentic jungle edit with rhythmic identity leading the idea.

    B) Bass-first approach if you want the fill to feel like a bassline mutation that happens to use break language.

    A: Break-first

    - Start with a chopped Amen-style break, classic two-step fill, or a tight old-school drum loop.

    - Use Slice to New MIDI Track on the break if it helps you get quick control.

    - Trim slices so that snare ghosts, kick pickups, and tiny hat details survive.

    - Keep only the slices that contribute to momentum.

    B: Bass-first

    - Write a short MIDI phrase in the fill lane using a stabby bass patch or resampled bass one-shot.

    - Then carve a small rhythmic pocket around it with break hits and fills.

    - This is better if your track leans more modern, and you want the jungle reference to function as a flavour rather than the whole identity.

    Practical call: if the track already has strong break language, go break-first. If the bass is the main hook, go bass-first. Both work, but they create different emotional weights.

    3. Build the rhythmic skeleton with 1-bar and 2-bar logic

    Make the fill legible in bars before adding detail. A reliable retro rave edit often uses:

    - Bar 1: establish the original groove

    - Bar 2: add chopped break tension

    - Bar 3: introduce the bass flip or stab response

    - Bar 4: release into the next section

    Keep the first pass very structural. In MIDI, place a few accented hits and leave space. If you’re using audio slices, duplicate a break chop and move only one or two slices at a time. Resist the urge to fill every subdivision.

    For timing, nudge certain ghost hits a few milliseconds ahead if you want urgency, or slightly behind if you want a looser jungle swing. In Ableton’s Arrangement View, zoom in and make micro-edits rather than forcing the whole clip onto a rigid grid.

    What to listen for: the fill should still “breathe” against the kick. If the kick disappears emotionally, your fill is too dense. If the fill doesn’t pull the ear forward, it’s too empty.

    4. Shape the drum edit inside Simpler or Drum Rack

    If your break is chopped, load it into Simpler in Slice mode or into a Drum Rack after slicing. Use short, purposeful edits:

    - tighten slice start times

    - shorten tails where they blur the groove

    - let one or two ghost notes ring longer for character

    - use velocity to create the illusion of an old sampled break being played rather than programmed

    A strong jungle fill usually needs a balance of hard hits and human-feeling micro accents. Don’t quantize everything to death. Keep the main snare anchors firm, then let the ghost notes be slightly imperfect.

    Good starting points:

    - break slices: trim decay so the low mids don’t smear

    - ghost hit velocities: moderate to low, not full strength

    - snare accents: clearly louder than the surrounding chatter

    - hat fragments: narrow and controlled, not splashy

    If the break sounds too clean, it will lose the retro rave edge. If it sounds too messy, it will eat the bassline. The sweet spot is dirty but legible.

    5. Add a bass response phrase that answers the break

    Now program the bassline or bass stab that flips the fill. This is where the lesson becomes a bassline lesson, not just a drum edit.

    A strong approach is to use a short bass phrase with 2 to 4 notes maximum in the fill area, with one note acting as the “answer” to the break. For example:

    - first two beats: keep the original bass minimal or drop it out

    - third beat: introduce a punchy bass accent

    - fourth beat: push a pickup note into the next section

    If you’re using a reese-derived patch, keep the note lengths short enough that the low end stays controlled. A good starting zone:

    - note lengths around 1/8 to 1/4

    - short rests between hits

    - one or two notes slightly higher in octave for movement

    This is where octave control matters. A bass flip that lives entirely in the sub will sound heavy but flat. One that jumps too high will lose its DnB authority. The trick is to let the sub stay disciplined while the mid-bass does the character work.

    6. Design the bass tone with stock Ableton devices

    A solid stock chain for the bass flip is:

    Operator → Saturator → EQ Eight → Auto Filter

    Or, if you want a more aggressive printed character:

    Wavetable → Overdrive → EQ Eight → Compressor

    For Operator, use a simple sine/triangle-based core with a harmonically richer layer if needed. Keep the movement controlled rather than huge. In Saturator, a modest drive amount can bring the bass forward; think in the zone of a few dB of drive, not extreme clipping. Use EQ Eight to remove unnecessary low-mid cloud and tame harsh bands. With Auto Filter, automate a low-pass or band-pass sweep for the rave flip moment.

    Good starting ranges:

    - low-pass opening: around 200 Hz to 2 kHz, depending on how exposed the bass should feel

    - saturation drive: low to moderate, enough to thicken the harmonics

    - EQ cut around 200–400 Hz if the fill is boxy

    - gentle control around 2.5–5 kHz if the bite gets sharp

    If the bass is meant to feel like an old rave stab rather than a sub note, layer a short, filtered mid-bass with a cleaner low end underneath. The important thing is that the low end remains monophonic and stable.

    7. Commit movement with resampling if the edit starts sounding too polite

    This is the point where advanced workflow pays off. If the fill sounds technically correct but emotionally flat, resample it. Record the bass-and-break interaction to a new audio track and treat it like raw material.

    Why this works in DnB: resampling captures the interaction between transient, saturation, and timing in a way that MIDI alone often doesn’t. Jungle edits often feel alive because the sound is slightly “printed” by its own distortion and envelope decisions.

    Once bounced, you can:

    - reverse a tiny tail into the next bar

    - cut a transient earlier for a sharper pickup

    - duplicate a stab and slightly detune or offset it

    - fade a section into a breath before the drop lands

    Stop here if the resampled version already grooves and the low end is stable. Don’t keep processing just because you can. Overworking a strong fill usually makes it smaller.

    8. Automate the transition, not just the sound

    A retro rave edit needs a clear entry and exit. Use automation on the bass and drum bus elements so the ear understands the transition.

    Practical automation moves:

    - close the bass low-pass slightly in the first half of the fill, then open it on the last hit

    - reduce send to reverb or delay early, then allow a brief tail at the end

    - add a short rise in filter resonance right before the final stab

    - increase Saturator drive slightly only on the last accent if you want a “lift”

    In Ableton, automation should feel like arrangement, not decoration. A tiny change to filter cutoff or dry/wet can create a strong payoff if timed against the bar structure.

    What to listen for: the fill should feel like it “arrives” on the last hit. If the climax happens too early, the final bar loses purpose.

    9. Check the edit against the drums and the next section

    Put the fill into the full context: kick, snare, hats, bass, and the first bar of the next section. This is where you judge whether the edit is musically useful.

    Two key checks:

    - Does the final fill bar hand off cleanly into the next groove?

    - Does the kick still punch, or has the bass fill stepped on it?

    If the transition is into a heavier drop, let the fill end with a short gap or a stripped pickup so the next section can hit harder. If it’s into a breakdown or atmospheric reset, the fill can trail a little more and leave a tighter tail.

    Arrangement example: use this over bars 13–16 of a phrase, with the fill intensifying in bars 15–16 and the new section landing on bar 17. That gives the listener just enough setup to recognise the shift without feeling interrupted.

    10. Finish the mix discipline: mono, sub, and headroom

    A jungle fill can easily ruin low-end clarity if the edit gets too wide or too harmonically busy. Keep the sub in mono and avoid spreading anything below roughly 120 Hz with stereo effects. If you’ve layered a rave stab or widened texture, keep that in the mid/high layer only.

    Use Utility to check mono compatibility. If the fill loses too much impact when summed to mono, the width is probably sitting in the wrong part of the spectrum. Use EQ Eight to carve space rather than boosting more level. If needed, reduce the bass clip gain slightly and let the drums breathe.

    In a real DnB session, the fill should feel exciting but not louder just because it has more information. The best versions create the illusion of a bigger hit by editing density and harmonic change, not brute-force level.

    Common Mistakes

    1. Making the fill too busy

    - Why it hurts: the groove stops reading, and the listener hears clutter instead of momentum.

    - Fix: mute half the ghost notes, keep one clear snare anchor, and simplify the bass response to 2–4 notes.

    2. Letting the sub ring through every edit

    - Why it hurts: the low end smears, and the kick loses authority.

    - Fix: shorten bass note lengths, use a high-pass or low-end cleanup on the fill layer, and keep the real sub line minimal during the fill.

    3. Over-widening the rave layer

    - Why it hurts: it sounds big in headphones but weak or unstable in mono.

    - Fix: use width only on the mid/high component, and check the whole fill in mono with Utility before committing.

    4. Quantizing the break so hard it loses jungle feel

    - Why it hurts: the fill becomes stiff and generic instead of rolling and alive.

    - Fix: nudge a few ghost hits slightly early or late, and preserve the natural swing of the break slices.

    5. Using too much distortion on the entire bass

    - Why it hurts: the low end loses focus and the fill turns harsh.

    - Fix: distort the mid layer more than the sub, or split the bass roles so the sub stays clean while the character layer gets the grit.

    6. Forgetting the landing

    - Why it hurts: the fill sounds interesting, but the next section doesn’t hit harder because the transition has no contrast.

    - Fix: leave a final gap, strip the bass for a beat, or automate the filter so the next bar feels like a clean release.

    7. Building the fill outside the arrangement

    - Why it hurts: a cool loop may not function as a transition in the real track.

    - Fix: test the edit against the actual drums and the first bar after the drop or switch-up before you approve it.

    Pro Tips for Darker / Heavier DnB

  • Use a two-layer bass strategy: keep the sub plain and stable, then let the upper bass carry the retro rave tone. This preserves weight while giving the fill attitude.

  • Print the fill and edit the audio: once the interaction between break and bass feels good, resample it. Tiny audio cuts often sound more dangerous than MIDI reshaping.
  • Let one snare hit remain “too loud” on purpose: that slightly aggressive accent can make the whole fill feel like a real jungle edit instead of a polished loop.
  • Use controlled resonance on the final bar: a brief filter bump around the last accent can create that rave-era bite, but keep it short or it becomes whining instead of menacing.
  • Pair the fill with an arrangement drop in density: if the fill is busy, make the next bar simpler; if the fill is sparse but brutal, let the next section answer with more rhythm.
  • Keep low-end motion narrower than the midrange motion: movement belongs in the harmonic layer; the sub should feel like a locked rail, not a wobble.
  • Use call-and-response with the drum break: one phrase can be purely percussive, the next purely bass-driven. That contrast is what makes the flip feel intentional and underground.
  • Check the edit at club-level playback volume: what sounds clever quietly can become muddy loud. The best darker DnB fills stay punchy when the system starts pressurising the room.

    • Mini Practice Exercise

    Goal: build a 4-bar retro rave jungle fill flip that works in context with your drop.

    Time box: 15 minutes.

    Constraints:

  • Use only stock Ableton devices.
  • Keep the bass flip to no more than 4 notes.
  • Use one break or drum loop source only.
  • Make the sub layer mono and simple.
  • Add just one automation move that changes the energy at the end of the fill.

    • Deliverable:

  • A 4-bar loop with a clear fill in the final 2 bars
  • A bass response that lands cleanly into the next section
  • One printed/resampled version of the fill if it improves the result

    • Quick self-check:

  • Does the fill still work when you mute the main bass for the first 2 bars?
  • Does it stay punchy in mono?
  • Does the last bar feel like a true setup for the next section, not a random flourish?

Recap

A strong retro rave jungle fill in Ableton is built from phrase first, sound second. Keep the break edit rhythmic and readable, make the bass response short and disciplined, and use automation or resampling to create a real transition instead of a decorative loop. The winning version should feel heavy, nostalgic, and purposeful — a proper DnB movement that hits in the room and leads cleanly into what comes next.

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Today we’re building a retro rave edit from scratch in Ableton Live 12. More specifically, we’re making a jungle fill that flips into a new bass movement, and placing it where it actually earns its keep in a Drum and Bass arrangement.

This is not just about making a cool fill. It’s about creating a DJ-friendly, bar-aware, tension-building transition that feels like a real record moment. The kind of moment that can live at the end of an eight-bar phrase, the last two bars before a drop, or the turnaround before a second-drop switch-up. If you get this right, the listener should feel the track stop being a loop and start becoming a song.

What we’re aiming for is a four-bar jungle fill flip built from a chopped break, a short bass response phrase, a filtered or distorted rave accent, and a final bar that opens into the next section. It should feel old-school in character, but modern in weight. Dirty, but legible. Exciting, but disciplined.

The first thing to understand is that phrase comes before sound. Always. So before you start hunting for the perfect break or synth patch, set up the arrangement around the exact moment where the fill will live. Load in your drums, your main bass, and any atmosphere first. Then loop the section you’re working on so you can judge the fill in context right away.

For this kind of edit, I like starting with an eight-bar loop and placing the fill in the last two bars of a sixteen-bar phrase, or right before a drop change. That gives the edit a job. It’s not a random embellishment. It’s a transition device.

What to listen for here is simple: when the fill begins, the energy should rise, but the kick and bass relationship should not collapse. If it suddenly feels like everything is happening at once, the phrase is overloaded. If it barely registers, you haven’t given it enough identity.

Now comes the first real choice. Do you go break-first or bass-first?

If you want the more authentic jungle feel, go break-first. Start with a chopped Amen-style break, an old-school drum fill, or a tight break loop, then slice it up in Ableton. You can use Slice to New MIDI Track if that speeds things up, or keep it in audio if you want to work more surgically. Keep the ghost notes, little kick pickups, and snare details that give the break personality. Don’t polish the life out of it.

If your track is already more bass-led, then go bass-first. Write the fill as a short bass mutation, then carve the drums around it. That approach is great when you want the jungle reference to feel like flavour rather than the entire identity of the track.

Why this works in DnB is because the fill is not just there to sound cool. It has to answer the groove. In Drum and Bass, the transition has to carry momentum, reset the ear, and reveal a new bass identity without wrecking the low end. That’s the job.

Once you’ve chosen your source, build the rhythmic skeleton first. Don’t rush into detail. Think in bars. A strong retro rave edit usually follows a clear arc: the first bar keeps the original groove present, the second bar introduces chopped break tension, the third bar brings in the bass flip or stab response, and the fourth bar releases into the next section.

Keep that first pass simple. A few accented hits. Some empty space. Maybe one clear snare anchor and a couple of ghost notes. Resist the temptation to fill every subdivision. The best jungle edits breathe.

What to listen for is the relationship between the fill and the kick. If the kick disappears emotionally, the fill is too dense. If the fill doesn’t pull the ear forward, it’s too empty. You’re looking for that sweet spot where the groove still rolls, but the listener can feel the turn coming.

If you’re editing a break, load it into Simpler in Slice mode or map it into a Drum Rack. Tighten slice starts, shorten tails that blur the groove, and let one or two ghost notes ring a little longer for character. Use velocity to make it feel played rather than programmed. That’s a huge part of the old-school feel.

Don’t quantize everything to death. Keep the main snare hits strong and dependable, but allow a few ghost notes to sit a touch early or late. That slight human drift is part of what makes jungle feel alive. If you make the break too perfect, it loses the rave edge. If it gets too messy, it smears over the bass. You want dirty but readable.

Now we bring in the bass response phrase. This is where the lesson becomes about basslines, not just drum edits. Keep it short. Two to four notes maximum is usually enough. Often the strongest version is the one that knows when to get out of the way.

A good approach is to let the first couple of beats stay minimal or even drop the bass out, then introduce a punchy accent in the third beat, and a pickup note or answer in the fourth. If you’re using a reese-derived patch, keep the note lengths short enough that the low end stays controlled. Think one eighth to one quarter note lengths, with little spaces between hits.

And this matters a lot: keep the sub disciplined while the mid-bass does the personality work. If the sub lives in every hit, the fill may feel heavy, but it will also feel flat and muddy. If everything is happening in the top end, it loses authority. The trick is clean low end, character in the mids.

For the sound design, you can stay completely inside stock Ableton devices and still get a strong result. A simple chain like Operator into Saturator into EQ Eight into Auto Filter is enough to get you very far. Or if you want something more aggressive and printed, Wavetable into Overdrive into EQ Eight into Compressor will get you there.

With Operator, keep the core simple. Sine or triangle energy is often enough, maybe with a touch of harmonic movement if you need more bite. Use Saturator modestly. You want thickness, not destruction. EQ Eight can clean up low-mid cloud around the 200 to 400 Hertz area and tame harshness higher up if needed. Then Auto Filter gives you the movement, which is really the whole point of the flip.

You can automate a low-pass opening, maybe somewhere between a darker start and a more open final hit. The exact range depends on how exposed you want the bass to feel, but the key is movement, not drama for its own sake. Think of the filter as phrasing, not decoration.

What to listen for now is whether the bass actually answers the break. A lot of edits sound technically correct, but they don’t feel like a conversation. The break should ask a question. The bass should reply. That call-and-response is what makes the edit feel intentional and underground.

If the whole thing starts sounding a little too polite, commit to resampling. This is one of the most useful advanced moves in Ableton. Record the break and bass interaction to audio, then treat it like raw material. That printed version often has more attitude than the MIDI ever will, because you’re capturing the exact interaction of timing, saturation, transient shape, and envelope decisions.

Once it’s bounced, you can do things like reverse a tiny tail into the next bar, cut a transient earlier for a sharper pickup, duplicate a stab and offset it slightly, or leave a little breath before the next section lands. This is where the edit starts to feel like a real record moment instead of a loop with effects.

And here’s a good rule: stop if the resampled version already grooves and the low end is stable. Don’t keep processing just because you can. One of the most common advanced mistakes is over-developing an idea after it already has a job.

Now we shape the transition, not just the sound. Automation should feel like arrangement. Close the bass filter a touch at the start of the fill, then open it on the last hit. Pull back reverb or delay early, then let a brief tail happen at the end if it helps the landing. Maybe add a small resonance bump right before the final stab. Tiny moves, big payoff.

The important thing is timing. The fill should feel like it arrives on the last hit. If the climax happens too early, the final bar loses its purpose. The landing is the point.

At this stage, put the fill back into the full track context. Kick, snare, hats, bass, and the first bar of the next section. This is where you find out if the edit actually works as a transition. Does it hand off cleanly? Does the kick still punch? Or has the fill stepped on the next downbeat?

If you’re heading into a heavier drop, you may want the fill to end with a short gap or a stripped pickup so the next section can hit harder. If you’re going into a breakdown or an atmospheric reset, you can let it trail a little more and keep the energy hanging in the air. The transition has to match the destination.

A really strong arrangement move is to use the last two bars of a phrase to intensify, then let the next section land on the new phrase boundary, like bars fifteen and sixteen resolving into bar seventeen. That gives the listener a clear sense that something changed, without it feeling forced.

Now for the mix discipline, because this is where a lot of otherwise great edits fall apart. Keep the sub mono. Don’t spread anything below about 120 Hertz with stereo effects. If you’ve added a rave stab or a widened texture, keep that in the mid and high layers only. Use Utility to check mono compatibility. If the fill loses too much impact when summed to mono, the width is living in the wrong place.

A jungle fill can sound huge in headphones and then collapse on a club system if you’ve widened the wrong part of the spectrum. So carve space instead of just boosting level. If needed, trim the bass clip gain a little and let the drums breathe. In Drum and Bass, excitement should come from density, harmony, and movement, not just volume.

A few common mistakes are worth calling out. First, making the fill too busy. If every slice is important, nothing is important. Second, letting the sub ring through every edit. That smears the low end and steals the kick’s authority. Third, over-widening the rave layer so it sounds good in stereo but weak in mono. Fourth, quantizing the break so tightly that it loses all jungle feel. Fifth, distorting the entire bass instead of splitting the sub and character layers. And finally, forgetting the landing. If the next section doesn’t feel stronger, the fill hasn’t done its job.

Here’s a really useful advanced habit: make versioned bounces. Keep a raw MIDI or chop version, then a printed or resampled edit, then a mono-checked mix version. That way, if the processing starts making the edit smaller, you can step back without losing the good idea. This is a simple workflow habit that saves a lot of frustration.

A few extra pro moves can make a huge difference. If you’re working on darker or heavier DnB, split the bass into two jobs: a clean sub that stays simple and stable, and a character layer that can get saturated and animated. That lets you keep the fill aggressive without destabilising the low end. You can also let one snare hit stay a little too loud on purpose. That tiny bit of attitude often makes the whole fill feel more like a real jungle edit and less like a polished loop.

Also, don’t underestimate negative space. Sometimes the strongest version is the one that removes more than it adds. A sparse bar, a sudden bass accent, then a near-empty final hit before the drop can hit harder than a wall of detail. In Drum and Bass, contrast is power.

If you want to push this further, try one of the advanced variations. You could do a half-time fakeout into full-speed release, where the first half of the fill feels heavier and more spacious, then the second half brings back the chopped break motion and bass energy. Or you could make it break-led, with the bass only shadowing the last half of the phrase. Or go the other direction and make it bass-led, with the drums acting as punctuation. A rave stab answer can also work brilliantly if you want a recognisable retro signpost without turning the whole thing into a trance lift.

The big picture is simple. Build against the phrase, not against the loop. Keep one dominant gesture. Make the break readable. Make the bass short and disciplined. Let the filter, resampling, or automation create the transition. And always test it against the next bar, because that’s where the truth is.

So here’s your takeaway: a strong retro rave jungle fill in Ableton Live 12 is phrase first, sound second. It should feel heavy, nostalgic, and purposeful. It should carry momentum, reset the ear, and reveal a new bass identity without wrecking the groove. If it does those things, it’s not just a fill. It’s part of the arrangement.

Now try the exercise. Build a four-bar fill with one break source, one bass source, no more than four bass notes, and one automation move at the end. Print it if that helps. Then compare the resampled version to the MIDI version and see which one actually hits harder in context. Keep it sparse if you have to. Trust the job of the fill. And when it lands cleanly into the next section, you’ll hear exactly why this technique is so powerful.

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