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Snare flam timing: using Arrangement View (Advanced)

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Snare Flam Timing (Arrangement View) — Advanced DnB in Ableton Live 🥁⚡

1. Lesson overview

A great DnB snare flam isn’t “two snares randomly close together”—it’s a controlled micro-timing event that creates size, aggression, and forward motion without smearing the groove. In this lesson you’ll build flams directly in Arrangement View (not just in the MIDI editor), using time-domain editing, track delays, warp-aware audio slicing, and phase-safe layering.

You’ll learn:

  • How to place and shape flams at sub-16th resolution (5–30 ms range)
  • How to keep the snare punchy (transient alignment + phase management)
  • How to make flams roll with your hats/amen edits instead of fighting them
  • How to do it with stock Ableton devices (and a DnB mindset)
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    2. What you will build

    A rolling DnB 2-step (or jungle-leaning) drum arrangement with:

  • A main snare on beats 2 & 4
  • A flam layer that hits just before (or occasionally just after) the main snare
  • A controlled call-and-response flam pattern across 8–16 bars for arrangement energy
  • A solid drum bus chain that keeps the flam big but not blurry
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    3. Step-by-step walkthrough

    Step 0 — Set the session up for precision 🎯

    1. Tempo: 172–176 BPM (pick 174 BPM).

    2. In Arrangement View:

    - Enable Automation Mode off for now (so you don’t accidentally write automation).

    3. Grid settings:

    - Right-click the grid → set to 1/16.

    - Toggle Fixed Grid on.

    - You’ll still nudge by milliseconds using Clip Start and track delays later.

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    Step 1 — Build a clean snare “anchor” (your main hit)

    Goal: One snare that always lands perfectly, so the flam is the decoration.

    Option A: MIDI snare (recommended for repeatability)

    1. Create a MIDI track → drop a Drum Rack.

    2. Load your main snare sample onto a pad.

    3. Program snare hits on 2 and 4 for 8 bars.

    4. In Drum Rack pad settings (Simpler):

    - Mode: One-Shot

    - Warp: Off (unless you have a reason)

    - Voices: 1 (prevents overlap flamming accidentally)

    - Start: 0 ms (keep the transient true)

    Option B: Audio snare (great if you’re resampling / committing)

    1. Place your snare audio in Arrangement View on a dedicated track.

    2. Consolidate a bar if needed (Cmd/Ctrl+J) so edits stay clean.

    Why this matters: Your flam layer will move around—your main snare should not.

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    Step 2 — Duplicate to create a flam layer (Arrangement-first workflow)

    1. Duplicate the snare track:

    - MIDI: duplicate the track (Cmd/Ctrl+D)

    - Audio: duplicate the audio track

    2. Name tracks clearly:

    - `SNARE_MAIN`

    - `SNARE_FLAM`

    3. On `SNARE_FLAM`:

    - Turn it down to start: -8 to -14 dB relative to main.

    - Optional: high-pass it so it doesn’t thicken the low-mids too early:

    - Add EQ Eight → HP at 180–300 Hz, 24 dB/oct.

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    Step 3 — Create the flam timing (the “milliseconds” that make it DnB)

    You’ll use three methods. Pick the one that suits your material.

    #### Method 1: Track Delay (fast + repeatable) ⏱️

    Best for: consistent pre-flams across a section.

    1. Show mixer if needed: click the small “D” button at the right to show Track Delays (in Live’s mixer section).

    2. On `SNARE_FLAM`, set Track Delay to:

    - -10 ms (classic tight flam)

    - Try -6 ms for subtle width

    - Try -18 to -25 ms for more “double-hit” jungle bite

    3. Adjust flam volume to taste:

    - Tight flam: keep it quieter (-10 to -16 dB under main)

    - Bigger flam: bring it up (-6 to -10 dB under main)

    DnB feel guide at 174 BPM:

  • 5–9 ms: “thicker transient,” still reads like one hit
  • 10–18 ms: clear flam, adds urgency
  • 20–30 ms: starts to read as a double—use sparingly for fills/phrases
  • > Tip: Track Delay is amazing because it’s constant and doesn’t mess with clip boundaries.

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    #### Method 2: Arrangement nudging (surgical + phrase-based) ✂️

    Best for: changing flam timing per hit (human, funky).

    For audio clips:

    1. Disable Warp unless you need it:

    - Click the clip → Warp Off (for one-shots).

    2. Slice the flam snare into individual hits:

    - Select a region → Cmd/Ctrl+E at each hit boundary (or consolidate then split).

    3. Nudge specific flam hits earlier:

    - Select a clip → Alt + Left Arrow (moves by grid)

    - For finer movement: temporarily set grid to 1/64 or turn off fixed grid and use nudge carefully.

    4. Use the clip start marker if you want micro edits without moving the clip:

    - Drag the clip’s start point slightly so the transient fires earlier/later.

    For MIDI clips:

    1. Keep main snare fixed.

    2. On `SNARE_FLAM`, open the MIDI clip and:

    - Turn off snap (Cmd/Ctrl+4) temporarily.

    - Drag flam notes earlier by 8–20 ms (use the info bar for timing readouts).

    3. Re-enable snap after.

    Why Arrangement nudging rocks in DnB: You can make the flam tight in the verse and wider in the drop without automation tricks.

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    #### Method 3: Pre-delay with a transient-only “tick” (psychoacoustic flam) 🧠

    Best for: making the snare feel like it has a flam without audible doubling.

    1. On `SNARE_FLAM`, use a very short, clicky layer (rim, stick, filtered snare top).

    2. Add Simple Delay:

    - Set Time to ms mode (disable Sync)

    - L/R = 10–16 ms

    - Feedback = 0%

    - Dry/Wet = 100% (you’re using it as a fixed offset)

    3. EQ it (EQ Eight):

    - HP around 700–1.2k

    - Add a small shelf around 6–10k if needed

    4. Blend quietly (-18 to -12 dB).

    This creates “flam perception” while keeping the main transient clean.

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    Step 4 — Control transient dominance (so the flam doesn’t blur the hit)

    A flam should lead, not steal.

    On `SNARE_FLAM` insert:

    1. Drum Buss:

    - Drive: 2–6

    - Transients: -5 to -20 (reduce transient so it doesn’t compete)

    - Boom: Off (usually)

    2. Optional Compressor (not Glue yet):

    - Attack: 10–30 ms

    - Release: 50–120 ms

    - Ratio: 2:1 to 4:1

    - Aim for 1–3 dB GR on the flam layer.

    Result: The flam “pushes” the main snare, but the main snare remains king.

    ---

    Step 5 — Phase & mono sanity check (critical for heavy DnB) 🔍

    Layering + microtiming can cause partial cancellation, especially if both layers share similar spectra.

    1. Add Utility on each snare track:

    - Temporarily set Width to 0% (mono check).

    2. Flip phase on the flam layer:

    - Utility → Phase Invert L and/or R (try both).

    3. Choose the setting that yields more punch in mono.

    4. Set Width back (usually 100%, or keep snares mostly mono for club focus).

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    Step 6 — Group + bus chain (arrangement-ready snare weight)

    1. Select `SNARE_MAIN` and `SNARE_FLAM` → Cmd/Ctrl+G → group as `SNARE_BUS`.

    Suggested SNARE_BUS chain (stock):

    1. EQ Eight

    - Cut mud: -2 to -4 dB at 180–350 Hz (wide Q)

    - Add crack: +1 to +3 dB at 2–4.5 kHz (if needed)

    2. Glue Compressor

    - Attack: 3 ms (or 10 ms if you want more transient)

    - Release: Auto or 0.1 s

    - Ratio: 2:1

    - Soft Clip: On

    - Aim for 1–2 dB GR on peaks

    3. Saturator

    - Mode: Soft Sine or Analog Clip

    - Drive: 1–4 dB

    - Soft Clip: On

    4. Optional Limiter (gentle safety):

    - Only shaving 1 dB on the wildest hits

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    Step 7 — Arrangement ideas: make the flam evolve across 16 bars 📈

    Here are DnB-rooted ways to keep it exciting:

    A) Verse (Bars 1–8): tight flam

  • Track Delay on flam: -8 to -12 ms
  • Flam level lower
  • B) Drop (Bars 9–16): wider, nastier flam

  • Increase Track Delay magnitude to -14 to -22 ms
  • Or nudge only bar-ending snares to -20 to -28 ms for “phrase punctuation”
  • C) Jungle nod: occasional late flam

  • On the last snare before a fill, move flam +10 to +18 ms (after the main)
  • This creates a “drag” / slapback feel—use sparingly, it’s a vibe.

    D) Call-and-response with breaks

  • If you’re layering an Amen:
  • - Keep the main snare consistent

    - Let the Amen ghost/snare act as the flam on select hits (edit in Arrangement)

    - Use Gate on the Amen snare region to keep tails tight

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    4. Common mistakes 🚫

    1. Flam too loud → turns into a messy double-hit and ruins punch.

    2. Over-wide stereo snare layers → phasey in mono, weak in clubs.

    3. Warp on one-shots with bad settings → transient smearing.

    4. Flam timing constant across the whole track → feels static; arrangement loses lift.

    5. Flam colliding with hats/ghosts → groove gets “late” or cluttered; carve space with EQ and timing.

    ---

    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🖤

  • Pre-flam into distortion: Put Saturator or Roar (if you have it) on the snare bus, but keep the flam layer’s transient reduced (Drum Buss Transients negative). You get aggression without splat.
  • Resample the snare bus: Record `SNARE_BUS` to audio, then:
  • - Trim fades

    - Add tiny fades (1–3 ms) to avoid clicks

    - Re-layer the resample with a clean transient snap if needed.

  • Flam frequency split:
  • - Flam layer: emphasize 2–8k (bite)

    - Main snare: keep 200 Hz–2k (body + crack) balanced

    This keeps the flam audible without muddying.

  • Micro-swing the flam, not the main: If you use Groove Pool, apply groove to the flam layer only (subtle). Main stays grid-locked = impact.
  • Use late flams as “threat hits” right before a bass switch or foghorn stab—works insanely well in dark rollers.
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    6. Mini practice exercise 🧪

    Goal: Train your ear to identify the “best” flam time for rolling DnB.

    1. Loop 4 bars of your drop drums.

    2. Create 3 locator regions:

    - A: Flam delay -8 ms

    - B: Flam delay -14 ms

    - C: Flam delay -22 ms

    3. For each region:

    - Adjust flam level so it’s felt more than heard.

    - Bounce/resample 4 bars (optional).

    4. Do a mono check (Utility width 0%) and pick the best region.

    5. Bonus: On bar 4 only, make the flam wider than the rest to create a phrase-ending “whip.”

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    7. Recap ✅

  • A DnB snare flam is micro-timing + level + spectral control, not just doubling.
  • In Arrangement View, the fastest advanced workflows are:
  • - Track Delay for consistent offsets

    - Nudging/splitting for phrase-specific edits

    - Psychoacoustic flam layers for perceived size without clutter

  • Keep your main snare locked, manage phase/mono, and let the flam evolve across sections for proper rolling energy.

If you want, tell me your snare style (clean clipper, metallic rim, jungle break layer, etc.) and your tempo, and I’ll suggest exact flam timings and a matching snare bus chain.

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Title: Snare flam timing: using Arrangement View (Advanced)

Alright, let’s do an advanced drum and bass move that sounds simple, but it’s one of those details that separates “two snares stacked” from “this groove is alive.”

Today is all about snare flam timing in Ableton Live using Arrangement View. And I want you to keep one idea in your head the entire time: a DnB flam is not two hits that happen to be close together. It’s a controlled micro-timing event. We’re sculpting milliseconds on purpose to create size, aggression, and forward motion, without turning your snare into a blurry double-hit.

By the end, you’ll have a rolling two-step style arrangement where the main snare is locked on beats two and four, and a flam layer either hits just before it, or occasionally just after, as a deliberate phrase move. And we’ll keep it punchy with transient control, phase checks, and a clean snare bus.

First, set up for precision.

Set your tempo in the classic range: 172 to 176 BPM. I’ll pick 174. Go into Arrangement View. Make sure Automation Mode is off so you’re not accidentally writing anything while you edit.

Now your grid: set the grid to one-sixteenth, and turn Fixed Grid on. That’s just for clean editing structure. The real sauce is that we’ll nudge in milliseconds using track delay, clip offsets, and tiny splits.

Step one: build your clean snare anchor.

This is the main snare. It’s the one that never moves. The flam can move around all day, but your main snare is the king that defines the backbeat.

If you’re doing this in MIDI, create a MIDI track, drop a Drum Rack on it, and load your main snare sample onto a pad. Program hits on beats two and four for eight bars. Then open the pad’s Simpler settings: set it to One-Shot, turn Warp off unless you have a specific reason to warp a one-shot, set Voices to 1 so it can’t overlap and accidentally create extra flams, and keep Start at zero so you’re not shaving the transient.

If you prefer audio, drag your snare one-shot into Arrangement on its own track and consolidate if needed so it stays neat when you start editing.

Either way, check your mindset: main snare stays perfectly placed. We’re going to decorate it, not destabilize it.

Step two: duplicate to create the flam layer.

Duplicate the snare track. Name them clearly, because once you start splitting and offsetting you don’t want mystery tracks.

Call them SNARE_MAIN and SNARE_FLAM.

On SNARE_FLAM, turn it down right away. Start somewhere like eight to fourteen dB quieter than the main. That’s not a rule forever, it’s just a safe starting point so you don’t accidentally build a messy double.

And here’s a really reliable advanced habit: don’t flam full-band unless you mean to. Put an EQ Eight on the flam layer and high-pass it around 180 to 300 Hz. That way, the main snare owns the weight and low-mid body, and the flam supports presence and urgency instead of creating that papery “split snare” effect in the 200 to 800 Hz zone.

Now step three: create the flam timing. This is where Arrangement View becomes a weapon.

We’re going to use three methods, and you can mix them depending on the section.

Method one: Track Delay. Fast, repeatable, and perfect for consistent pre-flams.

In Live’s mixer section, enable track delays. On SNARE_FLAM, set a negative delay so it hits early. Start with minus 10 milliseconds. That’s a classic tight flam.

Now do a quick feel sweep:
Minus 6 milliseconds is subtle. It’s more like thickening the transient.
Minus 10 to minus 18 is where it reads as an obvious flam and adds urgency.
Minus 20 to minus 30 starts sounding like a double-hit, which can be sick for jungle bite or phrase punctuation, but don’t live there all the time.

Then balance the level. Tight flam? Keep it really tucked, like ten to sixteen dB under the main. Bigger flam? Bring it up closer, maybe six to ten dB under the main. Always check with hats playing, by the way. DnB “tight” is often anchored by your closed hats or rides more than your kick and snare grid. If you pick flam timing while hats are muted, you might choose something that falls apart the second the hats come back.

Quick coach tip before we go further: calibrate your ear with “null timing.”
Temporarily set the flam to perfectly align with the main, and bring the flam level up until you clearly hear comb filtering. That ugly hollowing is your reference point. Then lower it again and start moving earlier in tiny steps. You’ll feel the moment it crosses from phase coloration into perceived flam. That’s your sweet zone.

Method two: Arrangement nudging. This is the surgical, phrase-based approach.

If your flam is audio, click the clip and turn Warp off for one-shots. Bad warp settings on one-shots are a top-tier way to smear transients and make your snare feel like it has a soft front.

Now slice the flam audio into individual hits. Put the cursor at each hit boundary and split. Once each hit is its own clip, you can nudge specific ones earlier or later. If you need finer moves, temporarily change your grid to one-sixty-four, or disable fixed grid so you can do micro adjustments without snapping.

And don’t forget a super clean trick in Arrangement: use tiny fades as transient shapers. If the flam is giving you a double-click feeling right at the start, add a 0.5 to 2 millisecond fade-in on the flam clip. That’s often cleaner than compressing, because the problem might literally be just the first few samples.

If your flam is MIDI, keep the main snare fixed, and on the flam track open the MIDI clip. Turn off snap temporarily and drag the flam notes earlier by about 8 to 20 milliseconds. Watch the timing readout as you move. Then turn snap back on so your life doesn’t become chaos.

This method is amazing for DnB because it lets you be musical with it. Tight in the verse, wider in the drop, and only exaggerated on phrase endings, without setting up complicated automation.

Method three: psychoacoustic flam. This is the “make it feel like a flam without hearing two snares” method.

On SNARE_FLAM, swap the sample for a very short, clicky layer. Think rim, stick, or just the top of a snare filtered hard. Put Simple Delay on it, turn Sync off so you’re in millisecond mode, set left and right around 10 to 16 milliseconds, feedback at zero, and dry/wet at 100 percent. You’re using it as a fixed offset, not an echo.

Then EQ it: high-pass it hard, around 700 Hz up to 1.2k, and add a little shelf in the 6 to 10k zone if it needs air. Blend it quiet, like minus 18 to minus 12 dB. What you get is a perception of “something leads into the snare,” but your main transient stays clean and club-solid.

Now step four: control transient dominance, so the flam doesn’t steal the hit.

Put Drum Buss on the flam layer. Add a little drive, like 2 to 6. Then pull Transients down, negative values, maybe minus 5 down to minus 20. That reduces the flam’s transient edge so it pushes the main snare instead of competing with it. Usually leave Boom off on the flam.

Optionally add a normal Compressor, not Glue yet. Use an attack around 10 to 30 milliseconds, release 50 to 120 milliseconds, ratio 2:1 to 4:1, and aim for just 1 to 3 dB of gain reduction. You’re not trying to smash it. You’re just controlling the flam layer’s tendency to jump out.

And another small but advanced move: noise tail management. A lot of snares have noise tails that stack up fast when doubled. If the flam is building hiss and wash behind the snare, put a Gate on the flam layer and tighten the release so it supports the front but doesn’t stack tails.

Step five: phase and mono sanity check. This is not optional for heavy DnB.

Layering and micro-timing can cause partial cancellation, especially if your layers share similar frequency content.

Put Utility on each snare track. Temporarily set Width to zero percent so you’re listening in mono. Then, on the flam layer, try phase invert left or right, or both. Pick the setting that gives you more punch in mono. Once you’ve chosen, set width back. Generally, keep snares mostly mono for club focus, and get your width from tops, rides, rooms, and effects—not from the core snare transient.

Two quick reality checks while we’re here.

One: milliseconds versus samples. If you’re at 48k, one millisecond is about 48 samples. At 44.1k, it’s about 44 samples. So when you’re thinking “why does minus 8 milliseconds feel weird today,” check your sample rate, because you’re literally changing the resolution of your nudges.

Two: latency pitfalls. If you’re auditioning microtiming while you have heavy lookahead limiters, linear-phase EQ, or oversampling in your snare chain, you can misjudge the pocket. Temporarily bypass high-latency devices while you decide timing, then re-enable them after you commit.

Step six: group and build a snare bus that’s arrangement-ready.

Select SNARE_MAIN and SNARE_FLAM, group them, and call it SNARE_BUS.

On the bus, start with EQ Eight. If it’s muddy, cut a couple dB around 180 to 350 with a wide curve. If it needs crack, add a little around 2 to 4.5k, but keep it tasteful. DnB snares get harsh fast when you’re loud.

Then Glue Compressor. Try an attack at 3 milliseconds for tighter control, or 10 milliseconds if you want more transient through. Release on auto or 0.1 seconds. Ratio 2:1. Turn Soft Clip on. Aim for just 1 to 2 dB of gain reduction on peaks.

Then Saturator. Soft Sine or Analog Clip, drive 1 to 4 dB, Soft Clip on. If you’re going darker and heavier, this is where you can get aggression without turning it into brittle top-end pain. A gentle limiter after that is fine, just shaving maybe a dB on the wildest hits.

Now step seven: make the flam evolve across 16 bars, because constant flam is one of the biggest mistakes. It gets static and the arrangement stops lifting.

Here’s a simple DnB map.

Bars 1 to 8, verse: tight flam. Track delay around minus 8 to minus 12 milliseconds, and keep the flam level lower.

Bars 9 to 16, drop: wider, nastier. Push it to minus 14 to minus 22 milliseconds, or do it selectively. For example, only make the bar-ending snares extra wide, like minus 20 to minus 28 milliseconds, so the phrase ends “whip” forward.

And if you want a jungle nod, use an occasional late flam: on the last snare before a fill, move the flam after the main by plus 10 to plus 18 milliseconds. That slapback drag feels intentional if you use it sparingly, especially right before a switch.

If you’re layering an Amen or another break, think call-and-response. Keep the main snare consistent, and let the break’s ghost snare become the flam on certain hits. Edit the break directly in Arrangement so it only answers where you want, and gate it if the tails are getting messy.

Advanced variations if you want to go further.

Try frequency-split flam timing. Make two flam layers: a FLAM_TOP that’s high-passed at 1 to 2k and set earlier, like minus 12 milliseconds. Then a FLAM_MID, band-passed around 400 Hz to 2k, but less early, like minus 6 milliseconds. The snare feels like it opens into the hit instead of sounding like a doubled sample.

Or do a push-pull flam map across four bars: bar one tight, bar two slightly wider, bar three tight again, bar four widest as a phrase marker. In Arrangement, split the flam clips per bar and offset each region differently. This is one of those “sounds pro, looks simple” techniques.

You can also do a ghost-flam hybrid: use a quiet ghost stick sample early on most hits, and save the real flam for phrase ends. That keeps speed and clarity, but still gives you those big moments.

And if you want width without killing mono, try an M/S-style approach on just the top tick. Duplicate the high-passed tick. One copy stays mono, width at zero. The other gets widened to maybe 120 to 160 percent, turned down, and offset by just a few milliseconds different from the first. You get air and motion, but the core punch stays centered.

Now, common mistakes to avoid as you build.

If the flam is too loud, it becomes a messy double-hit and you lose punch. If your snare layers are super wide, you’ll get phase issues and weak club translation. If Warp is on for one-shots with bad settings, your transient smears and your timing decisions become unreliable. If the flam timing is identical for the whole track, your arrangement stops evolving. And if the flam collides with hats and ghosts, the groove gets cluttered and feels late. Carve space with EQ, and make timing decisions with the hats running.

Mini practice exercise to lock this in.

Loop four bars of your drop drums. Make three regions: one with the flam at minus 8 milliseconds, one at minus 14, one at minus 22. In each region, adjust the flam level so it’s felt more than heard. Then do a mono check by collapsing to mono, and pick which region hits hardest without thinning. Bonus move: on bar four only, widen the flam more than the rest to create that phrase-ending whip.

And if you want the full homework challenge, build a 16-bar loop and try four different flam strategies, one per four-bar region: full-band flam, tick-only flam, frequency-split flam, and alternating pre versus post flams on selected hits. Then do three checks: mono punch, quiet-level check, and hat masking check. Resample the snare bus for the best region and commit it to audio. That’s how you stop endlessly tweaking and start finishing.

Final recap to burn it in.

A DnB snare flam is micro-timing plus level plus spectral control. Arrangement View is perfect for this because you can do constant offsets with track delay, surgical phrase edits with splits and nudges, and psychoacoustic size with tiny tick layers. Keep the main snare locked. Manage phase and mono. Let the flam evolve across sections like an arrangement tool, not a static effect.

If you tell me what kind of snare you’re using—clean one-shot, break layer, metallic rim, clipped modern snare—and whether your hats are straight or swung, I can suggest a specific flam map: exact offsets, relative levels, and filtering that will sit perfectly in your groove.

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