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System for reese patch for timeless roller momentum in Ableton Live 12 for jungle oldskool DnB vibes (Advanced)

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System for a Reese Patch with Timeless Roller Momentum (Ableton Live 12) 🧪🔊

Advanced Sound Design — Jungle / Oldskool DnB vibes

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1. Lesson overview

This lesson is about building a reese system (not just a single preset) that gives you that timeless rolling momentum heard in jungle / 90s-driven rollers and modern deep DnB. You’ll create:

  • A stable sub that never collapses
  • A moving mid-bass reese with controllable stereo + phase
  • A top texture layer for grit/air and mix translation
  • …and you’ll wire it so it performs like an instrument: macros for movement, weight, and aggression, plus arrangement tricks to keep it rolling.

    Everything uses stock Ableton Live 12 devices (Operator/Wavetable, Saturator, Auto Filter, Corpus, Redux, Roar, Echo, Utility, Glue, etc.).

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    2. What you will build

    A 3-layer rack:

    1. SUB (Mono Anchor): pure sine/triangle with tight pitch tracking

    2. MID (Reese Engine): detuned oscillators + controlled phase “wobble” + stereo management

    3. TOP (Grit/Presence): resampled-style fizz, noise, or distorted harmonics

    4. BUS glue + macro control: consistent dynamics, movement, and quick variations for arrangement

    Target aesthetic: rolling, forward momentum, where the bass feels like it’s pulling the groove along, without relying on a big obvious wobble.

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    3. Step-by-step walkthrough

    A) Session + routing setup (fast and pro)

    1. Tempo: 160–172 BPM (classic jungle rollers often feel great at 165–170).

    2. Create a MIDI track named BASS RACK.

    3. Drop an Instrument Rack on it. Create 3 chains: `SUB`, `MID`, `TOP`.

    4. Group your drums (break + tops) into a DRUM BUS, because later you’ll sidechain from it.

    > Workflow tip: Put your bass group in its own BASS BUS track if you plan multiple bass layers/patches later.

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    B) SUB chain (the unshakeable anchor) 🧱

    Goal: zero stereo, minimal harmonics, consistent low end.

    1. In the `SUB` chain, add Operator.

    - Algo: A only

    - Osc A waveform: Sine (or Triangle if you need a touch more audible note definition)

    - Envelope:

    - Attack: 0–5 ms

    - Decay: 200–600 ms (depends on your note lengths)

    - Sustain: 0 dB

    - Release: 50–120 ms

    2. Add Auto Filter after Operator:

    - Mode: Lowpass 24 dB

    - Cutoff: ~140 Hz (adjust to taste)

    - Drive: 0–3 dB

    3. Add Utility:

    - Width: 0% (mono hard)

    - Bass Mono: On (if you later add widening somewhere accidentally)

    Sub note range suggestion: Keep it mostly E1–A1 for classic weight (depending on tune key).

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    C) MID chain (the Reese Engine) 🌀

    Goal: classic reese motion = detune + phase interaction + subtle modulation, controlled.

    #### Option 1 (very “Ableton classic”): Wavetable reese

    1. On `MID` chain, add Wavetable.

    2. Osc settings:

    - Osc 1: Basic Shapes → Saw (or “Saw” table)

    - Osc 2: Saw as well

    - Detune Osc 2: +10 to +25 cents

    - Unison: 2–4 voices (don’t go huge—rollers like controlled width)

    3. Filter:

    - Type: LP24

    - Cutoff: start around 250–800 Hz

    - Resonance: low (5–15%)

    - Drive: 2–6 dB

    4. Modulation for “momentum,” not wobble:

    - LFO 1 → Osc 2 Fine (very small)

    - Amount: 1–4 cents equivalent (tiny!)

    - Rate: 0.08–0.25 Hz (slow drift)

    - Mode: Free (so it doesn’t restart every note)

    - LFO 2 → Filter Cutoff

    - Amount: subtle (5–15%)

    - Rate: 1/2 or 1 bar synced, or 0.3–0.6 Hz free

    - Shape: sine/triangle

    - Key part: keep it moving, not “wub-wub.”

    #### Phase/width control (crucial)

    Add Utility after Wavetable:

  • Width: 60–110% (start around 80%)
  • Bass Mono: On (set around 120 Hz)
  • Add Chorus-Ensemble very subtly (optional but classic):

  • Mode: Chorus
  • Rate: 0.15–0.35 Hz
  • Amount: 10–25%
  • Dry/Wet: 5–15%
  • This helps that “reese smear” without turning it into trance.

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    D) TOP chain (grit + air + “tape/break era” texture) ✨

    Goal: add audible motion and bite that translates on smaller speakers, while the sub stays clean.

    1. Add Operator or Wavetable (either works).

    - Use a brighter source: saw/pulse/noise mix.

    2. High-pass it:

    - Auto Filter HP12 or HP24

    - Cutoff: 250–500 Hz (top layer should not fight low-mid weight)

    3. Add Saturator:

    - Mode: Analog Clip

    - Drive: 3–10 dB

    - Soft Clip: On

    4. Add Redux (very light “oldskool edge”):

    - Downsample: 1.2–4 kHz range (use taste; subtle is key)

    - Bit Reduction: 0–2 (don’t destroy it unless that’s the vibe)

    5. Add Auto Filter after distortion to tame harshness:

    - LP12 around 3–7 kHz if needed

    > If you want meaner modern presence, try Roar instead of Saturator: keep it moderate, and filter after.

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    E) Glue the layers into a single “instrument” 🎛️

    On the Instrument Rack (post chains) add:

    1. EQ Eight (cleanup + roles)

    - Mid chain: consider a small dip around 200–350 Hz if it boxes up

    - Top chain: tame harshness around 2–5 kHz

    2. Saturator (gentle bus harmonics)

    - Drive: 1–4 dB, Soft Clip On

    3. Glue Compressor (optional, subtle)

    - Attack: 10–30 ms

    - Release: Auto

    - Ratio: 2:1

    - GR: 1–3 dB max

    4. Limiter (safety, not loudness)

    - Just catch peaks; don’t smash the groove.

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    F) Sidechain that preserves roller momentum (not pumping chaos) 🫀

    You want forward motion without the bass disappearing.

    1. Add Compressor on the BASS RACK (after rack devices, not per chain).

    2. Sidechain from DRUM BUS (or a dedicated “KICK SC” trigger).

    3. Suggested settings:

    - Ratio: 2:1 to 4:1

    - Attack: 5–15 ms (lets bass transient breathe)

    - Release: 80–160 ms (tempo dependent; adjust until it “rolls”)

    - Threshold: aim for 2–5 dB reduction

    4. For jungle breaks: sometimes the kick isn’t consistent. Consider a ghost kick MIDI track feeding a short click to sidechain reliably.

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    G) Create “timeless movement” with note programming + micro-automation 🧠

    A reese patch is only half the vibe—the MIDI is the roller engine.

    Classic roller pattern idea (1 bar loop):

  • Use offbeat pushes and ties.
  • Example in 16ths (conceptual):
  • - Hits around 1, 1a, 2&, 3, 3e, 4& (varies by groove)

  • Keep notes mostly in a tight range (E1–A1), and use occasional jumps for drama.
  • Velocity & length = groove:

  • Shorten certain notes (staccato) to create breathing.
  • Use slightly different velocities if your synth responds (or map velocity to filter).
  • Macro automation = momentum:

  • Automate filter cutoff slowly across 8–16 bars
  • Add tiny changes every 2 bars (0.5–2%) to keep it alive
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    H) Macro mapping (make it performable) 🎚️

    In the Instrument Rack, create macros like:

    1. Weight → Mid filter cutoff + Mid drive (inverse-ish)

    2. Motion → LFO2 amount to cutoff + Chorus wet (tiny range)

    3. Grit → Top Saturator/Roar drive + Redux downsample amount

    4. Width → Mid Utility width (limit range: 60–110%)

    5. Sub Safe → Sub level + Sub filter cutoff (small)

    6. Duck → Sidechain threshold (so you can push groove quickly)

    > Advanced move: Keep macro ranges narrow so you can automate without wrecking the mix.

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    I) Arrangement ideas: how to keep it rolling for 64 bars 🧩

    For jungle/DnB, the bass should evolve like a living loop.

  • Bars 1–8: tighter (less top, less width, slightly more duck)
  • Bars 9–16: introduce top grit + small cutoff lift
  • Bars 17–32: add occasional reese “yow” stab (filter open for 1/4 bar)
  • Bars 33–48: drop width slightly (makes it feel heavier) then re-open
  • Bars 49–64: add a resampled variation: bounce MID+TOP to audio, reverse tiny bits, or add one-shot tails
  • Stock tools for variation:

  • Auto Filter envelope automation
  • Echo very subtle for dubby tails (HP/LP inside Echo)
  • Frequency Shifter (tiny fine shift 5–20 Hz on TOP only for movement)
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    4. Common mistakes ⚠️

    1. Stereo sub: any width below ~120 Hz will wreck translation and reduce punch.

    2. Too much unison/detune: makes it huge but unstable, phasey, and loses center power.

    3. Over-wobble: classic rollers usually have drift and pressure, not big EDM LFO shapes.

    4. No role separation: if SUB/MID/TOP overlap too much, you get mud and no “engine.”

    5. Sidechain too fast/too deep: creates a hole instead of momentum—especially under busy breaks.

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    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🖤

  • Parallel distortion on MID only:
  • - Duplicate MID chain inside rack (MID DIRTY), distort hard with Roar/Saturator, then low-pass around 1–2 kHz and blend quietly.

  • Controlled metallic edge (without harshness):
  • - Add Corpus on TOP (very low mix) with tuning near the key note; HP first.

  • Reese “growl” without wobble:
  • - Try Frequency Shifter on MID at +10 to +30 Hz, Dry/Wet 5–15% (subtle detune illusion).

  • Make it feel louder without louder:
  • - Add harmonics around 200–800 Hz (MID), then reduce competing break low-mids with EQ.

  • Darkness comes from filtering + midrange control:
  • - Don’t just distort more; low-pass the distortion and keep the sub clean.

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    6. Mini practice exercise 🎯

    Goal: Build 3 variations of the same reese system for a 32-bar roller.

    1. Start with your finished rack and write a 2-bar bass loop that rolls with your break.

    2. Duplicate it into three clips: `A`, `B`, `C`.

    3. For each clip:

    - A (tight): less width, less top, cutoff slightly lower

    - B (open): cutoff +10–20%, add a little Motion macro

    - C (aggressive): add Grit macro, slightly more duck, shorten some notes

    4. Arrange: A (bars 1–8), B (9–16), A (17–24), C (25–32).

    5. Bounce MID+TOP to audio once and add tiny fades + micro edits (classic resample energy).

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    7. Recap ✅

  • You built a 3-layer reese system: mono sub + moving mid + gritty top.
  • You kept the sub stable and placed motion where it belongs: midrange interaction + subtle modulation.
  • You used macros + sidechain to get that “always rolling forward” jungle/DnB momentum.
  • You learned arrangement tactics to keep the bass evolving across long phrases like a real roller.

If you want, tell me your target vibe (e.g., 1995 Ray Keith/Photek-style, Metalheadz deep, modern minimal roller) and what key/tempo you’re writing in—I can suggest exact macro ranges and a MIDI pattern that locks with your break.

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Title: System for Reese Patch for Timeless Roller Momentum in Ableton Live 12 for Jungle Oldskool DnB Vibes (Advanced)

Alright, let’s build a reese system in Ableton Live 12 that behaves like a proper instrument, not a one-off preset. The goal is that timeless roller momentum: the bass feels like it’s dragging the whole groove forward, even when the MIDI pattern is simple. Think jungle and 90s rollers, but still clean and controllable in a modern mix.

We’re going to do this with three layers inside one Instrument Rack: a mono sub anchor that never collapses, a mid-bass reese engine that gives us movement and pressure, and a top texture layer that carries grit and presence onto small speakers. Then we’ll glue it, sidechain it in a way that preserves momentum, and set up macros so you can perform the bass through a whole arrangement.

Before we touch devices, set your tempo. Anywhere from 160 to 172 works, but for that classic roller feel, 165 to 170 is a sweet spot. Now create a new MIDI track and name it BASS RACK. Drop an Instrument Rack on it, then create three chains and name them SUB, MID, and TOP.

One quick routing note: group your drums into a DRUM BUS. If you’ve got breaks plus tops, put them together. Later, we’ll sidechain from that bus, or from a ghost trigger, and that choice matters a lot for how “rolled” the groove feels.

Now a coach move that will save you time: pick a reference pitch before you dial in detune and width. Hold a sustained F1 or G1 while you design. Those notes sit right in the zone for a lot of roller keys. Once it feels good there, test plus or minus three semitones. If the motion disappears or turns to mush, you’ll catch it early.

Let’s start with the SUB chain: this is your unshakeable anchor. Drop Operator on the SUB chain. Set the algorithm to A only. Oscillator A is a sine wave. If you want a tiny bit more note definition, you can use triangle, but start with sine. Envelope: attack basically instant, like zero to five milliseconds. Decay can be 200 to 600 milliseconds depending on how long your notes are. Sustain at full, and release around 50 to 120 milliseconds, just enough to feel natural without smearing.

After Operator, add Auto Filter. Low-pass 24 dB mode. Set cutoff around 140 Hz as a starting point. We’re deliberately keeping the sub simple and tucked under the mid engine. Add a touch of drive if you want, like 0 to 3 dB, but don’t “sound design” the sub too hard. The sub’s job is confidence.

Then add Utility. Set width to 0 percent. Hard mono. Turn Bass Mono on too, so if anything later introduces width, it won’t leak down. This is one of those non-negotiables: stereo sub ruins translation and makes the kick feel smaller.

Now the MID chain. This is the Reese Engine. The classic reese is detune plus phase interaction plus subtle modulation that never turns into an obvious wobble. Rollers are about drift and pressure, not “wub-wub.”

Drop Wavetable on the MID chain. Set Osc 1 to a saw. Osc 2 also to a saw. Detune Osc 2 by about plus 10 to plus 25 cents. Don’t go huge. If you detune too much, you get size, but you lose center power and the low end starts feeling unstable.

For unison, use two to four voices. Again, controlled. Rollers love controlled width. Then go to the filter: LP24. Put the cutoff somewhere like 250 to 800 Hz depending on how dark you want it. Keep resonance low, around 5 to 15 percent. Add some filter drive, maybe 2 to 6 dB, because that drive gives you the “push” in the mids that reads on systems that can’t reproduce sub.

Now the momentum trick: LFOs, but tiny. LFO 1 goes to Osc 2 fine tuning. Amount should be very small. Think one to four cents worth of movement. Rate is slow drift, around 0.08 to 0.25 Hz, and set it to Free mode so it doesn’t restart every note. That’s key. If it re-triggers, you get a predictable wobble. If it drifts, you get life.

Then LFO 2 to filter cutoff. Subtle amount, five to fifteen percent. You can sync it to half a bar or one bar, or run it free at 0.3 to 0.6 Hz. Triangle or sine shapes are your friends here. The mission is “always moving,” not “look at my LFO.”

Next, we control phase and width. Put Utility after Wavetable. Set width around 80 percent to start, and keep it in a sane range like 60 to 110. Turn Bass Mono on and set it around 120 Hz. But here’s the more advanced mindset: don’t rely on Bass Mono like an emergency brake. Try to design the patch so the width mostly lives above about 200 Hz anyway. The more your fundamental is centered, the more the bass feels like an engine.

Optional, but very classic: add Chorus-Ensemble after Utility, very subtle. Mode on Chorus. Rate around 0.15 to 0.35 Hz. Amount 10 to 25 percent. Dry/wet 5 to 15 percent. This is that smear that makes the reese feel like it’s breathing without becoming a trance supersaw.

Now the TOP chain. This is grit, air, and translation. The top layer is what lets the bass be understood on phone speakers and cheap earbuds, and it’s also what gives you that break-era texture when it’s done right.

Add Operator or Wavetable. Either is fine. Use a brighter source, like a saw or pulse, maybe a bit of noise if you want. Then high-pass it with Auto Filter, HP12 or HP24, cutoff around 250 to 500 Hz. This is important: the top layer should never be responsible for low-mid weight. If it is, the whole bass gets boxy and the groove slows down.

After that, add Saturator. Analog Clip mode. Drive 3 to 10 dB, Soft Clip on. Then add Redux, lightly. Downsample somewhere in the 1.2 to 4 kHz range for that oldskool edge, and keep bit reduction minimal, like zero to two. If you overdo it, it stops being “texture” and becomes “broken.”

Then put another Auto Filter after distortion to tame harshness. Low-pass around 3 to 7 kHz if it’s getting spitty. Remember: darkness in DnB often comes from filtering and midrange control, not just “more distortion.”

At this point, you’ve got three layers. Now we glue them into one instrument and make the whole thing mix-ready.

On the Instrument Rack, after the chains, add EQ Eight. This is your cleanup and role enforcement. If the mid gets boxy, try a gentle dip around 200 to 350 Hz. If the top is harsh, check 2 to 5 kHz. Don’t over-EQ; you’re carving roles, not redesigning.

Then add a gentle Saturator on the bus. Drive 1 to 4 dB, Soft Clip on. This helps the layers feel like one sound.

Add Glue Compressor if you want that “held together” feel. Keep it subtle: attack 10 to 30 milliseconds, release on Auto, ratio 2 to 1. Aim for one to three dB of gain reduction max. If you slam it, the bass stops breathing and you lose that rolling feel.

Finally a Limiter as safety, not as loudness. Just catch peaks.

Now, the big one: sidechain for roller momentum. We want forward motion without the bass vanishing. Put Ableton’s Compressor after the rack, so it ducks the whole instrument together. Sidechain it from the DRUM BUS, or from a ghost kick if your break kick is inconsistent.

Settings: ratio 2 to 1 up to 4 to 1. Attack 5 to 15 milliseconds so the bass transient can breathe. Release 80 to 160 milliseconds. Adjust release until it feels like the bass is leaning forward with the groove, not pumping randomly. Threshold: aim for 2 to 5 dB of reduction. If it’s more than that, you’re probably carving holes instead of creating motion.

And here’s an advanced steering trick: if you use a ghost trigger, try two triggers. One main kick pulse, and a quieter one aligned to a snare accent or a key break hit. It makes the bass “dance with” the break rather than simply stepping out of the way.

Now, a huge coaching point: if the bass feels static, don’t immediately crank LFO depth. Momentum often comes from envelope timing and note length. Over-long releases blur the rhythmic push. Tighten releases on the MID and TOP before you touch modulation depth. Roller bass needs space between hits, even if it’s subtle.

Let’s talk MIDI for a second. A reese patch is only half the vibe. The MIDI is the roller engine. Keep the notes mostly in a tight range like E1 to A1. Use offbeat pushes and ties. The pattern can be simple, but it needs little moments of “push,” like an extra 16th before a beat, or a note held across where you’d expect a gap. Shorten a few notes so the groove breathes. If your synth responds to velocity, we’ll use that too.

Now let’s turn this rack into something you can actually play and automate without destroying your mix.

Open Macro Mapping and set up these macros:
Weight: map it to the MID filter cutoff and maybe a bit of MID drive in an inverse relationship. So as the cutoff opens, you’re not also making it too thin; you’re balancing weight and bite.
Motion: map to LFO 2 amount to the MID filter and a tiny bit of Chorus wet. Keep the range narrow so you can automate safely.
Grit: map to TOP Saturator drive, or Roar drive if you swap Roar in, plus a little Redux downsample amount.
Width: map to MID Utility width, but limit it to something like 60 to 110 percent.
Sub Safe: map to SUB chain level and maybe a tiny adjustment of the SUB filter cutoff. Keep this subtle. This macro is for “the room changed” moments.
Duck: map to the sidechain compressor threshold so you can tighten or loosen the groove quickly.

Keep macro ranges narrow on purpose. That’s how you get performable automation that doesn’t wreck your balance.

Now let’s add two advanced options that really level this up.

First: the Dual-MID approach, Core plus Flutter. Duplicate the MID chain inside the rack.
MID CORE is darker, minimal width, minimal modulation. This is your weight and consistency.
MID FLUTTER gets a higher high-pass, like 180 to 250 Hz, a little more detune or chorus, slightly brighter. Then blend it quietly, often 12 to 20 dB below the core. This is the secret: the ear hears movement, but the mix keeps punch. You get life without losing the center.

Second: phase re-centering. If you feel the low end shifting around note to note, it might be the interaction between SUB and MID, not either sound alone. Mute the TOP temporarily. Put Spectrum after the rack and loop one bar. Now adjust your crossover: raise the MID high-pass or lower the SUB low-pass until the 60 to 120 Hz region stops swelling and shrinking. If it still feels like the MID is stepping on the SUB transient, try adding Track Delay to the MID chain, plus 3 to 10 milliseconds. It sounds wrong in theory, but sometimes it reduces conflict and makes the groove feel steadier. Always check in mono after doing that.

Now arrangement. This is where “timeless” actually happens. A roller can repeat a two-bar bass loop for ages, but it needs a pressure curve.

Here’s a simple 8-bar pressure curve that’s hard to mess up:
Bars 1 to 4: slightly narrower and darker. Less top. A touch more duck.
Bars 5 to 6: open the filter a little, bring in a hint of Motion, maybe a tiny bit more top.
Bar 7: reduce width and add a bit more duck. This tightens the groove right before the phrase turn.
Bar 8: do a quick yank. A short moment where grit or cutoff spikes for a quarter bar, then reset at the next phrase.

That curve alone can make a loop feel like it’s going somewhere.

If you want a classic roller impact trick: two beats before a drop, remove mid harmonics. Close the MID filter slightly or reduce drive, then restore it exactly on the drop. Contrast hits harder than “more distortion.”

And for that old sampler energy, do one resample move: bounce MID plus TOP to audio once, then make a one-bar fill at bar 16 or 32. Slice a tiny 1/8 or 1/16, reverse it or repeat it two or three times, and low-pass it slightly. Keep the sub running clean underneath. That’s how you get tape-ish excitement without killing the foundation.

Let’s wrap with a practice structure so you actually finish something.

Build the rack, then write a two-bar bass loop that rolls with your break with no automation. Duplicate the clip three times and label them A, B, C.
A is tight: less width, less top, cutoff slightly lower.
B is open: cutoff up 10 to 20 percent, add a little Motion.
C is aggressive: more Grit, slightly more Duck, and shorten a couple notes for extra push.

Arrange it for 32 bars: A for bars 1 to 8, B for 9 to 16, A for 17 to 24, C for 25 to 32. Then resample the TOP once and do two micro-edits only near the end of sections, like bars 15 to 16 and 31 to 32. Tiny start offsets, tiny reverses, crossfades. Just enough to feel lived-in.

Final checks: mono compatibility, then a phone speaker test. If the bassline still reads on a phone, and the sub still feels confident on proper speakers, you nailed the “timeless” part.

And remember the core philosophy here: stable sub, controlled mid movement, textured top, and momentum created by envelopes, subtle drift, and arrangement pressure curves, not by extreme modulation.

If you tell me your tempo, key, and which break you’re using, I can suggest exact macro ranges and a bass pattern that locks to that specific drum swing.

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